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  • Spoon23
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    #121
    Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
    a calculated risk could get your ass embarrassed too but i feel u... some of us enjoy watching boxers make thier oponents miss all fight and boxing technique /adjustments/strategy... i enjoy both styles i just prefer technical boxing. pacs calculated risk has him worn down and at the end of his career already, hes one of the greats tho but if i could chose id be a technical boxer its just wierd as supposed boxing fans its called running and talked down on.. its actually harder than brawling to be good at
    Haven't you read what people has been commenting here. The guy is a doctorate of pugilism. (He has been a student of the game as a pro boxer for 19yrs now) He can't be on the p4p list for yrs of he ain't a technically sound boxer, after all this is called boxing.

    The guy just chooses to brawl sometimes because of his gift. Now that he is older he likes to show his boxing prowess. Which has been enhanced through the years. He always had it he is just showing it more now.

    If you can't see that he is technical. Your not seeing the genius that he's doing in the ring. Watch the video I posted. That's an example of technical.
    Last edited by Spoon23; 04-17-2014, 09:55 PM.

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      #122
      Originally posted by Spoon23
      Haven't ou read what people has been commenting here. The guy is a doctorate of pugilism. (19yrs of pro boximg) He can't be on the p4p list for yrs of he ain't a technically sound boxer, after all this is called boxing.

      The guy just chooses to brawl sometimes because of his gift. Now that he is older he likes to show his boxing prowess. Which has been enhanced through the years. He always had it he is just showing it more now.

      If you can't see that he is technical. Your not seeing the genius that he's doing in the ring. Watch the video I posted. That's an example of technical.
      show me one point where i said manny isnt technical and u win 1000 bucks... of course he has flashed of technicality... hes not one o the greatest technical boxers tho, hes one of the greatest warriors/fighters tho bot not in the eliete of techinal boxing.. this is just my opinion tho and ive never once said he wasnt technical

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        #123
        You can't be on the top of the sport if your just a fighter. You need to have both. Pac used to be a fighter/boxer, but now he has evolved to a boxer/fighter.

        Being just a gladiator type fighter won't bring you to the top of the sport. This is boxing. You need boxing skills to be on top.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Check_hooks
          If you look up "Master Boxer" in the dictionary in 10 years, you'll see a picture of Manny Pacquiao

          He can box, fight toe to toe, has amazing head movement and feints, fast feet, beautiful combinations, outstanding defense, great stamina, etc.

          If Pac wanted to, he would be hit less often than Rigo but no one wants to pay to see that style.
          Pac is willing to trade to give the fans excitement which is what the sport needs.
          No, just no. He might have similar physical abilities to Rigo, but the difference is in their boxing brains and temperaments that make them fight the way they do. Pac is a natural fighter, he is mobile and fast but he is most at home on the front foot launching combinations. He doesn't choose to fight that way just to please fans, he fights that way because its the most natural effective style for him. He doesnt have the boxing brain or the temperament to sit back and pick guys apart, top level guys anyway.

          Thats not to say Pac cant box or hes not smart. Hes just not in the top echelon of boxers.

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            #125
            Originally posted by One more round
            No, just no. He might have similar physical abilities to Rigo, but the difference is in their boxing brains and temperaments that make them fight the way they do. Pac is a natural fighter, he is mobile and fast but he is most at home on the front foot launching combinations. He doesn't choose to fight that way just to please fans, he fights that way because its the most natural effective style for him. He doesnt have the boxing brain or the temperament to sit back and pick guys apart, top level guys anyway.

            Thats not to say Pac cant box or hes not smart. Hes just not in the top echelon of boxers.
            this is all im saying good post

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              #126
              Lol this is boxing. He is a 4 time lineal champion. 8 division champion. Been in the p4p list for over a decade. And used to be p4p numero uno for so many years, If manny ain't a great boxer. This must be some other sport?? This is called boxing right? The guy is a boxer?

              The guy is a genius in his craft. He is not a pure boxer, but he is a boxer/fighter. A deadly combination. If you can't see his technical savy in there. You need to watch him closely. Don't blink cause he is fast. Hard to catch his mad science.

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                #127
                Originally posted by GorgeousJorge
                By this standard, Marquez is definitely not a master boxer whatsoever
                Yes Marquez does get hit a lot. Who doesn't? this is boxing. Some posters here are biased. They can't see that Pac is just different. A unique unorthodox boxer, but skill wise. He is definitely an excellent boxer.

                Even Floyd the so called pure boxer got hit so many time in the face by Cotto, so much so that floyd's nose bled. He must not be a pure boxer too lol

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                  show me one point where i said manny isnt technical and u win 1000 bucks... of course he has flashed of technicality... hes not one o the greatest technical boxers tho, hes one of the greatest warriors/fighters tho bot not in the eliete of techinal boxing.. this is just my opinion tho and ive never once said he wasnt technical
                  Yeah, this is how I feel.... Manny has tremendous skills, is a great fighter, but I just don't fell he is master class boxer,,, master class is about as high as you can go in terms of technical skills, and while has great skills, and an atg boxer, I don't think he can be called a master class

                  He has been outboxed in a technical sense all 4 times to Marquez, and got outboxed by morales..
                  If manny tries and strictly boxing in a technical manner instead of is aggressive style, he would get outboxed by all the elite master class guys,,,
                  Not being master class, doesn't mean you can't be an amazing fighter.. I wouldn't consider Ali, Roy jones, Pryor, Chavez sr, Holyfield, manny as master class..
                  Master class guys would be
                  Benny Leonard
                  Willie pep
                  Pernell Whitaker
                  Floyd mayweather
                  Alexis arguello
                  Rigo
                  Last edited by Sugar Adam Ali; 04-17-2014, 11:34 PM.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Spoon23
                    Yes Marquez does get hit a lot. Who doesn't? this is boxing. Some posters here are biased. They can't see that Pac is just different. A unique unorthodox boxer, but skill wise. He is definitely an excellent boxer.

                    Even Floyd the so called pure boxer got hit so many time in the face by Cotto, so much so that floyd's nose bled. He must not be a pure boxer too lol
                    Your right, he is an amazing boxer, amazing skills, just not master class.. He is a step below that,, but still a great atg fighter.

                    He is a master class offensive fighter

                    And a step below that in terms of master class of pure technical skills.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      Your right, he is an amazing boxer, amazing skills, just not master class.. He is a step below that,, but still a great atg fighter.

                      He is a master class offensive fighter

                      And a step below that in terms of master class of pure technical skills.
                      As I have said in this thread. PAC IS NOT A PURE BOXER. Pac used to be a fighter/boxer. Now he is a boxer/fighter, his priority now is to box.

                      He can't be pacman if he doesn't mix both up. Pac is both a boxer and a fighter. That is what he is all about. To take away one of those assets in him, of course he will falter.

                      He can't be pac if he doesn't have both in his arsenal. He is a boxer for 19 yrs and has transcended the sport.

                      I say he is an excellent boxer.
                      Last edited by Spoon23; 04-18-2014, 01:00 AM.

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