40 million fair deal or a bad joke(debate)?

[jcpryor]

So Mayweather wanted him to agree to a deal without discussing the back-end?

Yeah seems legit

Lol. You're trying to turn a 2 minute phone conversation into a full on negotiation. They didn't discuss anything else because Manny hung up the phone. Manny's stance (1-2 weeks after he said he'd take 60-40) while on the phone with Mayweather was 50/50 or nothing).Confirmed on both ends. He tells the public what they want to hear, but when it comes to actually making something happen he has a different stance.

[Kingjames6Flee]

People wanna believe Floyd is scared,but the truth is that Manny was too damn scared to negotiate and got off the phone after 5-10 seconds-literally! His bluff was being called when he said he would take the smaller amount to the public, but behind the scenes he said he wanted 50-50!!! Pac don't want the fight.

exactly my point. how do you ask for a 50-50 split pct of ppv after previously stating you'd agree to a less pct of ppv. idk man it just seems to me these pac fans just see **** one way. i like pac a lot but his nut hugging fans are ******.

[BuckToothed]

Pac did counter the offer directly to Floyd, 50-50 and you can have everything you want.
Bob even countered on his own, $50m flat fee to Floyd.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lol. You're trying to turn a 2 minute phone conversation into a full on negotiation. They didn't discuss anything else because Manny hung up the phone. Manny's stance (1-2 weeks after he said he'd take 60-40) while on the phone with Mayweather was 50/50 or nothing).Confirmed on both ends. He tells the public what they want to hear, but when it comes to actually making something happen he has a different stance.

I'm not even discussing what happened on the supposed phone call cos it's all he said, she said.

Mayweather said he met with Michael Koncsz a couple of times - yet they never discussed the back-end? OK.....

[Dirk Diggler UK]

exactly my point. how do you ask for a 50-50 split pct of ppv after previously stating you'd agree to a less pct of ppv.

Incorrect. Pacquiao publicly stated he'd take a smaller guarantee not less of the PPV. And even if he did say he'd take less of the PPV, does that mean 0% lol

[Kingjames6Flee]

I'm not even discussing what happened on the supposed phone call cos it's all he said, she said.

Mayweather said he met with Michael Koncsz a couple of times - yet they never discussed the back-end? OK.....

was that after the phone call he met with michael?

[SERVILEV]

So getting an offer that was more than twice the amount you have ever made was "shady"???? Hell, why didn't Arum try to make Floyd an offer of twice the amount he has made????

We can all get OPINIONS into this, but lets stick to the FACTS of the history.

The facts are!! Had pacq and mayw even agreed to a 45-55 or 40-60 split, he would have made more than 40mil . Mayw knew this .. That's why the greedy bastard said 40 mil flat or no fight! Yet had pacq said OK. We all know by proof that Floyd would have implemented another rediculous demand to kill the deal!!

[Dirk Diggler UK]

was that after the phone call he met with michael?

I don't know.

Why would the backend not have been discussed? Oh I know....because it wasn't a real offer.

Mayweather's Twatter offers. Arum's countdown clock. It's actually laughable when you look back at it.

Both guys have raked in millions fighting mostly cream puffs. Floyd is fighting Marcos Maidana next ffs

[JDD1]

He did. He said, "That doesn't even cover the back end."

Second, I don't know who is the dummy (daggum)that said the $40m will go to Top Rank and not Pacquiao. I had no idea all the revenue had been counted before the fight took place. Stick to cracking stale jokes because that post sounded like one.

Anyway, Pacquiao felt like it was a bad deal and I can't fault a guy for feeling that way. But maybe, just maybe, he should have Top Rank open their books so he truly knows what his value is.

Yup. Doesn't really matter what we think-only matters what Manny thought.

Myself, I don't think the offer was that bad.-its something like $10-12 mil more than Manny ever made for any other fight, so he could of said yes. On the other hand, if the fight made what most people think, Floyd would potentially be making 3-4 times what Manny would (based on the way his deal is structured). As such, I can understand why Manny would refuse this deal.

Of course, had Manny not walked away from the fight in 2009/10 this deal wouldn't be an issue.

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[Kingjames6Flee]

I don't know.

Why would the backend not have been discussed? Oh I know....because it wasn't a real offer.

Mayweather's Twatter offers. Arum's countdown clock. It's actually laughable when you look back at it.

Both guys have raked in millions fighting mostly cream puffs. Floyd is fighting Marcos Maidana next ffs

yea this fanboy **** is getting old lol. both guys haven't fought the best ill agree but maidana isn't that bad. he's not elite but I'm actually hoping he puts floyd on his ass at least once.