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Boxing goat has wlad the better p4p fighter than rigo. Do u agree?
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostYou have to imagine skillsets,,, wlad at heavy is a big tall jabber with big power, in a h2h with rigo at the lower weights, he would still be a big tall jabber with big power, just like a Kelly pavlik type fighter... And guys like serg, rigo, Floyd, Hopkins, ward would carve him up..
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Boxing goat? Did Ali say this?
On a serious note, I'd rank Wlad higher but wouldn't mind if someone had Rigo higher.
Here's why:
Wlad has dominated as THE heavyweight champion for almost a decade.
Wlad is the most complete fighter in his division and head and shoulders above everyone else (same can probably be said for Rigo but his only real challenge has been Nonito)
His jab is one of the best in the game and overall skill package is comparable to almost anyone in the sport, yes he lacks a good inside game but he makes up for it with terrific movement for a heavyweight, fast hands and immense power.
Rigo has Wlad beat on all round skill by a hairs breadth, but Wlad has superior power and superior achievement. So Id rank Wlad higher.
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If the question is
"If you used a shrink ray on Wlad and didn't allow him to make any stylistic changes despite losing 50-60% of his body weight who would win?"
The obvious answer to that ridiculous rigged question is Rigo. He would beat any heavyweight in history under those circumstances. Hell so would Donaire, Darchinyan, etc.
If the question is
"If you made both fighters into middleweights and allowed them to adapt their styles to that weight, based on the P4P track record of each fighter, who do you think would win?
In that case I would say Wlad
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Originally posted by Stallion_ View PostSo you are basically comparing a limited guy with average skills to the Olympic gold medalist who now dominates the sport for a decade?
Remind me again who is as good as Hopkins and serg that wlad fought...
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Originally posted by Lebanon View PostIf the question is
"If you used a shrink ray on Wlad and didn't allow him to make any stylistic changes despite losing 50-60% of his body weight who would win?"
The obvious answer to that ridiculous rigged question is Rigo. He would beat any heavyweight in history under those circumstances. Hell so would Donaire, Darchinyan, etc.
If the question is
"If you made both fighters into middleweights and allowed them to adapt their styles to that weight, based on the P4P track record of each fighter, who do you think would win?
In that case I would say Wlad
What is "adapt" or "adapting". Are you saying that if wlad adapted better skills he could beat rigo... If so, then that proves the point that wlad's skills are p4p better than rigo
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Originally posted by Lebanon View PostIf the question is
"If you used a shrink ray on Wlad and didn't allow him to make any stylistic changes despite losing 50-60% of his body weight who would win?"
The obvious answer to that ridiculous rigged question is Rigo. He would beat any heavyweight in history under those circumstances. Hell so would Donaire, Darchinyan, etc.
If the question is
"If you made both fighters into middleweights and allowed them to adapt their styles to that weight, based on the P4P track record of each fighter, who do you think would win?
In that case I would say Wlad
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostHow would wlad adapt styles to beat rigo... Wouldn't rigo adapt as well then..
What is "adapt" or "adapting". Are you saying that if wlad adapted better skills he could beat rigo... If so, then that proves the point that wlad's skills are p4p better than rigo
seriously, the standard here is dropping fast
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