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  • #21
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    Manny is shot. Not past prime, but shot.

    Manny used to be offensive machine. Come on seriously Manny ****ing Pacquaio respecting Tim Bradleys power? Hurt on several occasions!

    The guy has no punch resistance. Bradley was right, that fire has gone.

    There was several times in that fight he backed off and several times he look bothered by Bradleys power.

    Bradley couldn't miss all night and was troubling him. What if that was a guy with some pop in there?

    Mind you these people can't even see the difference of Marquez today compared to just a few years ago.
    And right after the fight Bradley said that manny still has it so if you are going to quote tim bradley you should quote what he said after the fight also. JMM power lifted his ass off bulking up so much and it took 4 fights to finally land that ONE damn punch and he finally got it but the rounds before that manny was kicking his ass using the style that he used to fight with and he paid for it. Floyd has a style that you could say hes shot he doesnt move like he used to and his power is not as great as it once was so are you ready to say hes shot? Manny won period and he beat a younger and stronger then before tim bradley. Bradley trained to try and knock manny out he added extra muscle you could tell and that may be the reason why he hurt his leg because he was too top heavy.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Loque-san View Post
      Pacquiao didn't look good against Bradley. He actually looked awful in the first 5-6 rounds. I'm not dissing him, but I don't know what some of you saw.

      He looked gunshy and slow, he was getting backed off and appeared scared to get hit. Just compare how he looked in their first fight, or even vs Marquez, to how he looked saturday. The difference is clear.
      He definitely looked well past his prime.

      Bradley was doing a good job early in the fight, then got ******. To be fair, he hurt his leg again (he talked about his right calf muscle after the fight), and I think it was a factor in the fight. It happened in the 7th round, and after that, he constantly looked on unsteady legs, walking and punching like a drunk.
      I think he was shocked at Bradley's increased power in the first round and after that he had to change the game plan. Brandon Rios never really hit manny flush so bradley's punches were the first real test hes had since the marquez fight and to me he got stronger as the fight went on because his confidence grew because he was able to withstand the first few bombs he threw.. Also i think the body shots that tim threw in the first few rounds had an effect on manny roach even said that when they were warming up manny was blazing fast. Diaz said that bradley hurt his leg in the 1st round i dont believe that i think he hurt it in the 2nd after manny blasted him with a straight left and his leg locked. But i heard during the fight that the pain only came when he went backwards.

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      • #23
        Manny is in the same position that Morales was when they first fought. Manny has clearly lost a step but should still be good enough to compete with this younger guys. He does seem to react badly when he gets hit now which might not be a good thing if he fights a bigger puncher. Oh well that's what he gets for trying to cherry pick Marquez

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        • #24
          Originally posted by TRTboy View Post
          God awful accuracy? Try hitting someone ducking as low as Bradley and moving his body all night. How did marquez's precision punching do against tim's defense?

          Mayweather would have an awful connect % if he had a guy ducking and moving all over the place instead of the usual come forward plodders he fights. You don't know **** about boxing OP.
          This x1000

          The ducking part mostly. Bradley's supposed slick defense and Manny's inaccuracy is just an illusion due to Bradley's bending very low spoiler tactic. It's practically the same as turning your back to your opponent. It's not defensive wizardry. It's just cheap as hell.
          Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 04-14-2014, 01:44 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
            Bradley was comfortably winning the first half of the fight until he went full ******.

            The reality is this; Manny IS shot and Bradley and I don't care who this guy has beaten, Bradley is not an elite fighter.
            I don't care if it was just a loss to Pac, he is not an elite fighter. Only in this era might he be anywhere close.
            Neither one of these guys have a p4p, elite skillset.
            Manny is like a gamer - Ever played and you're implementing a strategy and lose time and time again to a guy just spamming buttons?
            That is Manny.
            He looked awful last night, poor accuracy, tentative, real bad defense. Getting hit with shots being winged from the back row of the crowd.

            Bradley has God awful balance, he is not slick - stop throwing that around. He is stuck in an identity crisis - You call it adjustments, I call it a guy totally unsure of his own style.
            Bradley is the biggest overachiever maybe in boxing history.
            Good chin, great conditioning, pure heart that is about all.

            No real boxing ability, what 'elite' fighter utilises all that wasted movement? This apparently makes him slick? Slick fighters don't get hit with the same shot 5-6-7 times in a row as flush as you like. You'll never see Rigo or Floyd hit twice nevermind 5-7 times in the space of 10 seconds

            He fights like a cartoon. You seen a cartoon where they jokingly put their head down & just flail away? throwing windmills. He fights like he is swimming.

            If that guy is a top fighter or whatever, it speaks volumes to me for just how much todays fighters suck.
            That guy gets crucified in any other era.
            That guys little ass gets chased out of the welterweight division where he is forced to fight in his natural weight class & he gets lumps knocked out of him.

            Manny is done; if that was any other top WW with power last night he'd of been stopped.
            Lucas, Garcia, Herrera should be licking their lips & making that jump up.

            Both guys was horrifically bad.
            They weren't as bad as your horrendous grammar.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
              This x1000

              The ducking part mostly. Bradley's supposed slick defense and Manny's inaccuracy is just an illusion due to Bradley's ducking spoiling tactic. It's practically the same as turning your back to your opponent. It's not defensive wizardry. It's just cheap as hell.
              That is what I hated about Bradley's reasoning for winning the first fight and his claims that manny missed a majority of his punches of course hes gonna miss because hes not going to hit you in the back of the head and get DQ so he pulled back.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                Bradley was comfortably winning the first half of the fight until he went full ******.

                The reality is this; Manny IS shot and Bradley and I don't care who this guy has beaten, Bradley is not an elite fighter.
                I don't care if it was just a loss to Pac, he is not an elite fighter. Only in this era might he be anywhere close.
                Neither one of these guys have a p4p, elite skillset.
                Manny is like a gamer - Ever played and you're implementing a strategy and lose time and time again to a guy just spamming buttons?
                That is Manny.
                He looked awful last night, poor accuracy, tentative, real bad defense. Getting hit with shots being winged from the back row of the crowd.

                Bradley has God awful balance, he is not slick - stop throwing that around. He is stuck in an identity crisis - You call it adjustments, I call it a guy totally unsure of his own style.
                Bradley is the biggest overachiever maybe in boxing history.
                Good chin, great conditioning, pure heart that is about all.

                No real boxing ability, what 'elite' fighter utilises all that wasted movement? This apparently makes him slick? Slick fighters don't get hit with the same shot 5-6-7 times in a row as flush as you like. You'll never see Rigo or Floyd hit twice nevermind 5-7 times in the space of 10 seconds

                He fights like a cartoon. You seen a cartoon where they jokingly put their head down & just flail away? throwing windmills. He fights like he is swimming.

                If that guy is a top fighter or whatever, it speaks volumes to me for just how much todays fighters suck.
                That guy gets crucified in any other era.
                That guys little ass gets chased out of the welterweight division where he is forced to fight in his natural weight class & he gets lumps knocked out of him.

                Manny is done; if that was any other top WW with power last night he'd of been stopped.
                Lucas, Garcia, Herrera should be licking their lips & making that jump up.

                Both guys was horrifically bad.
                great post. bradley punches like he has no balance or leverage. all arm shots.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Brandish View Post
                  great post. bradley punches like he has no balance or leverage. all arm shots.
                  Shut up you little pansy b*tch.

                  I just wanted to say that.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by THE REED™
                    Stopped reading at Manny is shot.

                    People have no concept for this definition.
                    He's past prime, but I think he proved against Bradley that he's still at the elite level. Both Bradley and Pacquiao are elite fighters. I don't think you have to be Top 3-5 P4P to be elite and both these fighters can make a case to be within the top 5 P4P.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post
                      They weren't as bad as your horrendous grammar.
                      Okay, thanks Miss & I will be sure to you see you after school.
                      Did I mention that is a lovely pink summer dress you have on? It really flatters you. Tragic cun.tweasel, GTFO!

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