Manny & Pac was both ****!

[straightleft]

The fight 2 years ago was even more clear then this one but to say hes shot is going to far. Has he lost a step or two yes defensively he was slipping the huge bombs tim was trying to throw and the jabs that were landing is how manny measures to throw his left straight. Is he older now yes but he just beat the guy who outboxed JMM who some people on this site claim is better then Manny. Ask Rios how fast manny is and Bradley how fast manny is they will tell you that manny is still faster then a majority of the fighters in the WW and JW division.
Manny never beat guys with one punch knockouts he beat guys with just over all punches he lands at so many different angles that its hard to counter or attack and when you attack or put pressure manny can get away while throwing a right or left hook in the process.

The guys you Named Like Danny Garcia who fights waiting to throw his left hook would get turned around just like oscar did. He's not fast enough but power wise yes he poses a threat just look at the first 4 rounds against amir khan. Khan was whooping danny even cut him and had it not been for amir going full ****** on an exchange then he would have kept going with the boxing from outside.

History shows Pac beats every opponents he fought in one sided fashion except Marquez. This should give you a clue and don't make excuses for Bradley. Pac is just too good for them even a past prime Pac.

[Loque-san]

He's past prime, but I think he proved against Bradley that he's still at the elite level. Both Bradley and Pacquiao are elite fighters. I don't think you have to be Top 3-5 P4P to be elite and both these fighters can make a case to be within the top 5 P4P.

I don't know man. How do you think this version of Pacquiao would fare against guys like Maidana, Thurman, Porter?

He looked so much better in their first fight and against Marquez.

[dan_cov]

You signed upto a boxing forum to have no real input & be a grammar **** whilst sporting an avatar of yourself wearing pink & sticking your tongue out suggestively?


Precisely why the place has gone down the ****ter. Zero debating its just a case of ''I disagree'' and not saying why or grammar **** bull****.

I need another break from the place, I really do. Its nothing but fanboys who haven't stepped foot in a gym in their lives, I can't deal with it.

[Daddy T]

Too harsh on both guys. Manny isn't 'shot'. Which is an over used term in this place but he is well past his best, took way more shots that he normally would have. The window for a legit mayweather fight has passed imo. He's just not what he once was. Shot though ... no not shot ... mosley is shot ... jones jnr is shot ... would lose to nobodies that ain't **** ... Pac would still beat almost everybody in his division but he's far from the wrecking ball he once was. For instance he fights somebody like Danny garcia 4 years ago he destroys him in a one sided beatdown. he fights him now it's a tough fight that imo he'd probably still win. That's not shot ... it's past prime.

op is too harsh on bradley aswell. I've noticed he tends to go to extremes before.

[Kuyukut]

another thread posted by an idiot.

go and eat a bowl of **** soup.

that's all i can say.

[dan_cov]

*******s can't accept the fact he is shot. I must say I seen it coming.

What a pig ignorant, delusional fanbase.

Almost makes me want to see him get face planted again just too watch them cry, literally and go crawl back under their rocks.

Any rational person can see a mile away he has badly declined. The thing is 98% of fans don't see it and can't see the signs where as 1% are too ignorant to pay attention to it.

Even his own trainer is implying it.

Pac is done. His whole team including Bob knows it, its why they will give in to every single demand Floyd makes as they know its time to cash out now.
Floyd don't normally stop guys, he will easily stop current Manny.

[Daddy T]

I think most everybody will agree he has declined ... decline has been visible since Mosley ... why you so mad doe?

[Vadrigar.]

He mad doe

[Doctor_Tenma]

That's how I see it as well, Bradley fought ****** against the most vulnerable looking Pacquiao I've ever seen. I don't know what was running through his head showboating like that, Pacquiao was open down the middle, to the body and can no longer slide out of the corner as well as he used to. I don't know what I watched, I'm not disappointed in Pacquiao though I just think he no longer has it anymore.

I'm still speechless as to what happened to Bradley

[pacpacpacboom]

I don't know man. How do you think this version of Pacquiao would fare against guys like Maidana, Thurman, Porter?

He looked so much better in their first fight and against Marquez.

Bradley improved a lot.. Maidana, Thurman and Porter suffers the same beating Rios got. Even worse IMO after PAC seems to have 50% psychological recovery from the Marquez knockout. Marquez perfectly timed that last 3seconds of the round knockout shot but he was obviously being beaten up by PAC until that moment. Age causes Pacs cramping. His secret weapon are those legs of his so I guess unless his camp solves that problem of his the evolution of PAC as a boxer from a puncher won't be complete. They fix that Pacs career is prolonged 2 more years competitively. I wish mayweather fight happens before he finally leaves the sport. My 2cents.

P.S.
Bradley kills everyone at 147 and will be competitive against Floyd IMO. Dunno if he can win but he will be competitive but the fight will of course be boring. The Bradley against Marquez will show up. The preflight hype I'm sure will be a blast for that fight though.