Manny & Pac was both ****!

[TRTboy]

God awful accuracy? Try hitting someone ducking as low as Bradley and moving his body all night. How did marquez's precision punching do against tim's defense?

Mayweather would have an awful connect % if he had a guy ducking and moving all over the place instead of the usual come forward plodders he fights. You don't know **** about boxing OP.

[dan_cov]

Pac beat all his opponents all in one sided fashion except Marquez as long as I can remember. You can start from Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Margarito, the first Bradley fight and the Rios fight. I hope this will help you get a clue. It's not about his opponents but Pacquiiao is just this great. If you can stop hating him a few seconds you will be enlightened.

I know full well what he has done and I don't hate Manny. Its clear as day he is well past his best but that doesn't matter to fans until he is face down again.

[_original_]

Manny is not shot, he's just not in his prime anymore.

James Toney, Roy Jones, Erik Morales --- those are shot fighters.

[krazyn8tive]

Manny is not shot, he's just not in his prime.

James Toney, Roy Jones, Erik Morales --- those are shot fighters.

especially this guy

[dan_cov]

Manny is shot. Not past prime, but shot.

Manny used to be offensive machine. Come on seriously Manny ****ing Pacquaio respecting Tim Bradleys power? Hurt on several occasions!

The guy has no punch resistance. Bradley was right, that fire has gone.

There was several times in that fight he backed off and several times he look bothered by Bradleys power.

Bradley couldn't miss all night and was troubling him. What if that was a guy with some pop in there?

Mind you these people can't even see the difference of Marquez today compared to just a few years ago.

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Mannothy Bradley & Pac. Nobody will take your thread seriously now lol

[gdghunter06]

Bradley was comfortably winning the first half of the fight until he went full ******.

The reality is this; Manny IS shot and Bradley and I don't care who this guy has beaten, Bradley is not an elite fighter.
I don't care if it was just a loss to Pac, he is not an elite fighter. Only in this era might he be anywhere close.
Neither one of these guys have a p4p, elite skillset.
Manny is like a gamer - Ever played and you're implementing a strategy and lose time and time again to a guy just spamming buttons?
That is Manny.
He looked awful last night, poor accuracy, tentative, real bad defense. Getting hit with shots being winged from the back row of the crowd.

Bradley has God awful balance, he is not slick - stop throwing that around. He is stuck in an identity crisis - You call it adjustments, I call it a guy totally unsure of his own style.
Bradley is the biggest overachiever maybe in boxing history.
Good chin, great conditioning, pure heart that is about all.

No real boxing ability, what 'elite' fighter utilises all that wasted movement? This apparently makes him slick? Slick fighters don't get hit with the same shot 5-6-7 times in a row as flush as you like. You'll never see Rigo or Floyd hit twice nevermind 5-7 times in the space of 10 seconds

He fights like a cartoon. You seen a cartoon where they jokingly put their head down & just flail away? throwing windmills. He fights like he is swimming.

If that guy is a top fighter or whatever, it speaks volumes to me for just how much todays fighters suck.
That guy gets crucified in any other era.
That guys little ass gets chased out of the welterweight division where he is forced to fight in his natural weight class & he gets lumps knocked out of him.

Manny is done; if that was any other top WW with power last night he'd of been stopped.
Lucas, Garcia, Herrera should be licking their lips & making that jump up.

Both guys was horrifically bad.

The fight 2 years ago was even more clear then this one but to say hes shot is going to far. Has he lost a step or two yes defensively he was slipping the huge bombs tim was trying to throw and the jabs that were landing is how manny measures to throw his left straight. Is he older now yes but he just beat the guy who outboxed JMM who some people on this site claim is better then Manny. Ask Rios how fast manny is and Bradley how fast manny is they will tell you that manny is still faster then a majority of the fighters in the WW and JW division.
Manny never beat guys with one punch knockouts he beat guys with just over all punches he lands at so many different angles that its hard to counter or attack and when you attack or put pressure manny can get away while throwing a right or left hook in the process.

The guys you Named Like Danny Garcia who fights waiting to throw his left hook would get turned around just like oscar did. He's not fast enough but power wise yes he poses a threat just look at the first 4 rounds against amir khan. Khan was whooping danny even cut him and had it not been for amir going full ****** on an exchange then he would have kept going with the boxing from outside.

[PAC-BOY]

Manny and PAC is shot... This mofo done went full ****** on us! hehehehe heeeeeee

Manny and Pac....lmfao...lets all take this fruit loop serious! :AOR:

[Loque-san]

Pacquiao didn't look good against Bradley. He actually looked awful in the first 5-6 rounds. I'm not dissing him, but I don't know what some of you saw.

He looked gunshy and slow, he was getting backed off and appeared scared to get hit. Just compare how he looked in their first fight, or even vs Marquez, to how he looked saturday. The difference is clear.
He definitely looked well past his prime.

Bradley was doing a good job early in the fight, then got ******. To be fair, he hurt his leg again (he talked about his right calf muscle after the fight), and I think it was a factor in the fight. It happened in the 7th round, and after that, he constantly looked on unsteady legs, walking and punching like a drunk.

[Hyper Knuckles]

I'm not going to say Manny is shot. I have too much respect for him as an active pound for pound fighter who consistently boasts an impressive track record. I will say I noticed a change in style. In the Cotto fight Freddie Roach made it a point to keep off the ropes and avoid getting swarmed, in spite of his trainer's concerns Pacquiao allowed himself to get pinned against the ropes and soaked Cotto's punishment like a PSI machine.
He straight up told Freddie he wanted to taste Cotto's power.. I mean Cotto was getting in with some hard punches early in the fight and Manny didn't budge. Hatton got exploded on with little to offer in terms of resistance. Maybe Pacman needs to move down in weight, who knows.

When I saw Tim momentarily stun him with those winging rights and Pac kind of backed off in reluctance it almost felt like I was watching a different guy. It's an eerie thing. Manny Pacquiao had a great run but I believe he's already shown us everything he has to offer. And I'm okay with that, cause he's still in the winners column. Just please stop selling us on this hot garbage 'shot' angle. Both men came to fight. We as boxing fans should learn when to congratulate a hard earned victory rather than belittle a courageous performance.