Why Canelo vs Lara is a bad idea.

[MurkaMan]

Floyd won't fight him though. Bigger in height and weight. Bigger punching power. Slick southpaw. You think lil Floyd wants some of that??? Lol

I dont know if he would or wouldnt. But although he is bigger than Floyd he is weaker than Floyd. His size is almost an illusion. I thought Floyd ducked Pac because of the sheer violence in Pac's style. Lara is going to try to outbox Floyd and Floyd probably sees that as easy money. If Floyd can walk down Canelo, wtf is a small little boxer like Lara going to do? And Lara is not really slick. He relies solely on range and foot movement. He doesnt move his head and is nothing like Rigo. Rigo is a defensive specialist, while Lara is a faux slick fighter. Was supposed to dominate Perro, and looked horrible. Again I dont know if Floyd would fight him or not. But after Floyd fights Marcos, he will literally run out of real foes to face. The ppvs will be so horrible, and he is too strong for ww. I think an easy Lara fight will work for him, and yall overrate this dude acting like he is GGG.

[MurkaMan]

I'm kinda with you on this one. I just don't get the TS' point - like, this fight shouldn't happen because it might effect a possible future Lara - FMJ matchup? This is a good fight for me (and way better then Lara - Ishe) let's just see it made.

Once this fight happens, Lara will take a bunch of punishment, win, lose, or draw. This fight will almost literally snatch Lara off the table for Floyd. One less credible opponent that Floyd COULD have fought. So then that leaves Molina who I put second behind Lara, and Molina really needs a big win before he can get their. Lara can fight Floyd today and it would be cool.

I never said the fight shouldnt happen. I just said Floyd vs Lara should be prioritized before a Canelo fight. Canelo can fight him anytime. Floyd cant fight Lara if he gets brutalized by Canelo. Canelo is so much bigger than this dude and WAAAY better than Perro.

[MurkaMan]

Do not agree.

This is one triangle theory that will make people understand the true meaning of "styles make fights." Canelo is a strong talent with very good hands and piston speed and power but he's severely flatfooted. He does not go inside, does not collapse, does not apply pressure. He stays perpetually on the outside - disturbingly even when it's in his better interest to jump on his opponent.

Additionally, Canelo does not throw in high volume and is selective about his punching though he does have a varied arsenal and can unload beautifully with every punch in the book when he's given the opportunity.

Again though, and most importantly; he's just the opposite about how he likes to control real estate.

Angulo performed well against Lara because he is a high volume punching, come forward attacker with good power.

I'll save the bandwith going to details about why Lara will likely perform well. It should be pretty self explanatory.

This is Lara's fight to win. Team Canelo are friggin idiots IMO but I greatly admire them for taking this challenge.

This wasnt my argument, but at the same time Canelo actually PRESSURED Perro. Canelo is WAAAY stronger than Perro, faster, sharper. Canelo is too big for 54, while Lara actually looks like a ww. This fight MAY prove that Lara is too small, like Im expecting, or that Canelo is too big. Canelo can land ONE of those fast ass punches, and it will rock Lara's world.


Lets talk about Lara's overrated defense. People keep comparing hm to Rigo. Rigo is a defensive specialist. Lara is a slick runner. Rigo can step to the side, step back, move his head this way, that way, counter, slip, roll. Rigo can humiliate foes. Lara runs backwards, doesnt really move his head, relies solely on his range and footwork. Gets clipped by super slow guys that shouldnt even be able to graze him. Rigo, if a little taller would humiliate Perro.

[el_locoteee]

This wasnt my argument, but at the same time Canelo actually PRESSURED Perro. Canelo is WAAAY stronger than Perro, faster, sharper. Canelo is too big for 54, while Lara actually looks like a ww. This fight MAY prove that Lara is too small, like Im expecting, or that Canelo is too big. Canelo can land ONE of those fast ass punches, and it will rock Lara's world.


Lets talk about Lara's overrated defense. People keep comparing hm to Rigo. Rigo is a defensive specialist. Lara is a slick runner. Rigo can step to the side, step back, move his head this way, that way, counter, slip, roll. Rigo can humiliate foes. Lara runs backwards, doesnt really move his head, relies solely on his range and footwork. Gets clipped by super slow guys that shouldnt even be able to graze him. Rigo, if a little taller would humiliate Perro.

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BTW Canelo is no bigger than Williams or Perro and he is definitely not stronger than Lara. Refs stop el Perro, Lara make el Perro quit. And trout fell the same power from both Canelo and Lara. What make Canelo so strong? Fat maybe?

Same height with Longer reach from Lara who is always in better shape. A bigger Canelo means a slower Canelo, and if he try to cut the ring with all that extra weight, that will just make him tired quicker.

Great fight but please stop over hyping Canelo power, he have face 2 true 154 lbs and non have been stop by his power even the one that was a punching back who didn't move was taking Canelo to 12 round until refs call the fight.

[Citizen Koba]

Once this fight happens, Lara will take a bunch of punishment, win, lose, or draw. This fight will almost literally snatch Lara off the table for Floyd. One less credible opponent that Floyd COULD have fought. So then that leaves Molina who I put second behind Lara, and Molina really needs a big win before he can get their. Lara can fight Floyd today and it would be cool.

I never said the fight shouldnt happen. I just said Floyd vs Lara should be prioritized before a Canelo fight. Canelo can fight him anytime. Floyd cant fight Lara if he gets brutalized by Canelo. Canelo is so much bigger than this dude and WAAAY better than Perro.

Well...I guess if we're talking about how Erislandy could maximise his earnings (ie secure an FMJ fight) a loss (or particularly dominant win) miight not be his best route, but an FMJ fight simply can't be counted on anyway (just ask Khan) - Canelo probably brings the next best payday in the division and if the damn offer's on the table IMO Erislandy should just grab it - we've all seen how waiting can cost the big fights. Bird in the hand...?

[lefthook2daliva]

tldr but the premise is good: floyd outclasses lara, but not so much that lara's length/size advantage is useless.

one of the only pbf fights on the possible horizon that i might pay to see...

[A-Wolf]

This wasnt my argument, but at the same time Canelo actually PRESSURED Perro. Canelo is WAAAY stronger than Perro, faster, sharper. Canelo is too big for 54, while Lara actually looks like a ww. This fight MAY prove that Lara is too small, like Im expecting, or that Canelo is too big. Canelo can land ONE of those fast ass punches, and it will rock Lara's world.


Lets talk about Lara's overrated defense. People keep comparing hm to Rigo. Rigo is a defensive specialist. Lara is a slick runner. Rigo can step to the side, step back, move his head this way, that way, counter, slip, roll. Rigo can humiliate foes. Lara runs backwards, doesnt really move his head, relies solely on his range and footwork. Gets clipped by super slow guys that shouldnt even be able to graze him. Rigo, if a little taller would humiliate Perro.

You repeatedly make references to the problems Angulo caused Lara in this thread and repeatedly make references to Canelo beating up and/or defeating Lara. You've been making your argument pretty clear. We'll see what happens come fight night.

[boxingfeind]

There is really no point to fight ishe and risk the canelo fight. What if he hurts his hand or gets a bad eye cut. If the offer is there and fair then just take it now

The only way Lara gets out of a Ishe fight is if he fake a injury like Calzage use to do to get out of fights.

[MurkaMan]

You repeatedly make references to the problems Angulo caused Lara in this thread and repeatedly make references to Canelo beating up and/or defeating Lara. You've been making your argument pretty clear. We'll see what happens come fight night.

My argument was about prioritizing a potential Lara vs Floyd fight, before a Lara vs Canelo fight. Although I did make those references. Not enough for you to respond to the thread as if I had blatantly made the whole thread about how Lara would lose. I honestly dont know who would win, but yall crazy if you think Lara will have an easy night. It will be his toughest fight.

[MurkaMan]

Well...I guess if we're talking about how Erislandy could maximise his earnings (ie secure an FMJ fight) a loss (or particularly dominant win) miight not be his best route, but an FMJ fight simply can't be counted on anyway (just ask Khan) - Canelo probably brings the next best payday in the division and if the damn offer's on the table IMO Erislandy should just grab it - we've all seen how waiting can cost the big fights. Bird in the hand...?

Great point. But I never said wait. I was just saying beat Ishe, one of Floyd's fighters. Then its like Floyd has no one to fight. NO one except Khan. No one will pay for that. So Lara will be there with Canelo ready and willing to fight him. The only thing that could stop that is if Floyd were to come to the table. I dont think Canelo will lose to anyone on his date and thats the only thing that could ruin things. But I guess he should not fight Ishe, Floyd's fighter, for a cheap purse.And go straight to Canelo. A tougher fight, the fight he wanted, bigger payday tho. He always wanted Canelo but losing to him will never get him Floyd.