do u hate it when boxing fans says..

[Dirk Diggler UK]

biggest example
is floyd vs manny
it makes money but still not happening
khan vs broner it makes money but still not happening
ggg vs martinez it makes money still not happening
this are proven fighters vs proven fighters who boxing fans would spend money to watch

this are tough matches that makes money sense but cant seem to give us it
i know its prometers stopping it
but what i dont understand is fans who defends this business moves to maximize profit kind of stuff lol... so soft

Agree on Floyd-Manny and Khan-Broner.

Martinez is making much more money to fight Cotto than he would GGG so I don't agree on that.

[The Big Dunn]

He cant set up a Hopkins fight after fighting Kovalev?

Hmmm lets play a game, whats more lucrative, Kovalev and Hopkins or Fonfara and Hopkins?

I would say Hopkins and fonfura on Showtime because hbo refused to match the offer.

Look, if you think Stevenson is avoiding kkk we agree. My problem is hbo should have matched the offer but herschman is still refusing to work with haymon and that is what I s causing us to not see fights we want.

[DoubleLeftH00k]

Sadly, it's you who are blinded. Networks ok mismatches, not fighters. They do so because ratings are all that matters. Hbo knows, for example, kkk will get a 1.2 rating (on average) no matter who he fights. So they would welcome him fighting 2 stiffs before the Stevenson fight because it is little money for high ratings. Thats why he got a multi fight dealerships no Stevenson fight.

On the flip side Stevenson became an a side with the Dawson win. Now he sees a chance to fight 3 times and make aside money. Hbo is gonna get the same ratings from kkk as they would Stevenson, but Stevenson costs much more now that haymon is in the mix. So al mAkes a deal with Showtime and hbo doesn't match it because they don't want to pay more for the same rating.

Yes, we as fans get screwed. But if the networks are about the bottom line why would l d you expect fighters teams to be different?

wow ur doing the math good job
really impress
u could be a boxing accountant
u accept u are screwed but still defend their moves
something is wrong with u

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Can anyone tell me why Stevenson is fighting whatever bum he's fighting next? Why should there be a bidding war for that **** fight?

[New England]

some posters here are blinded by the race they've chosen to support, whether that person is right or wrong smh

let's get some names
this will be good.

[Tom Cruise]

A lot of these 'business' decisions seem to come about as a result of the fighter / team not backing themselves to beat an opponent.

Say with Bradley vs. Khan. Bradley had the Pacquaio fight, likely got a career high payday. But how much stronger would his negotiating position been if he was unified undisputed 140lb champ coming of a decent rating vs Khan? He could have taken a much bigger slice of the pie. Its not like the Pac fight would dissapear if he fought and beat Khan. The reason he didnt take it was because he knew there was a good risk of him losing

Same with Kovalev vs Stevenson. Hopkins has so few options atm Stevenson could afford to fight Kovalev make himself a decent star and then go after Hopkins. Its not like Hopkins can say "**** it ima go fight this guy" there isnt anyone. Stevenson could have gone into the Hopkins fight as a unified, lineal champ coming off a huge bout. He would have been able to take a bigger purse because of it... but again he decided there was a considerable risk of losing. So decided to take the less risky, less profitable option.

Stevenson and Bradley should have backed themselves, if they truly believed they were the best, and they could have made a lot more money imo

[Russian Crushin]

I would say Hopkins and fonfura on Showtime because hbo refused to match the offer.

Look, if you think Stevenson is avoiding kkk we agree. My problem is hbo should have matched the offer but herschman is still refusing to work with haymon and that is what I s causing us to not see fights we want.

Fonfara is a more lucrative fight than Stevenson-Kovalev? Quite clear you're just trolling now. This fight was made 2-3 months ago and there was no mention of this happening back then. In the context of that time, Kovalev-Stevenson was clearly the much more lucrative fight.

Again this has nothing to do with Haymon or showtime. If Stevenson is about that lucrative life, why turn down Kovalev to fight Fonfara instead 2-3 months ago?

But you said it, he's avoiding Kovalev, yet you support it. Not sure why tho, cant use the "he chose the more lucrative fight" excuse. Just pure nuthuggery at this point

[The Big Dunn]

wow ur doing the math good job
really impress
u could be a boxing accountant
u accept u are screwed but still defend their moves
something is wrong with u

I am not defending anyone. I am trying to show you where the blame should be placed.

I noticed you and Dirk debating. We as fans lost out on Floyd v Manny. Did hbo lose anything?

Instead of 1 3 million selling Ppv they got 3 1.2-1.5 mil ppvs a year for 4 years. Which do you think they preferred?

We don't have to agree. I hope you stay being a boxing fan as long as I have.

[DoubleLeftH00k]

Agree on Floyd-Manny and Khan-Broner.

Martinez is making much more money to fight Cotto than he would GGG so I don't agree on that.

okay but thats a missmatch,
i call it boxing business match
that is an example of
a fighter martinez leaning towards low risk high reward type of fights
this is what we beeing feed nowadays as a boxing fans

and im surprise boxing fans are taking it like its a masterpiece recipe
defending it "its making martinez more money"
right like they are getting a penny out of it

[DoubleLeftH00k]

I am not defending anyone. I am trying to show you where the blame should be placed.

I noticed you and Dirk debating. We as fans lost out on Floyd v Manny. Did hbo lose anything?

Instead of 1 3 million selling Ppv they got 3 1.2-1.5 mil ppvs a year for 4 years. Which do you think they preferred?

We don't have to agree. I hope you stay being a boxing fan as long as I have.

right, u are screwed but still happy about their earnings
again something is wrong with u