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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #31
    The Stevenson situation is a clear duck though.

    Why the hell isn't he fighting Kovalev NOW? They both fought on the same card last time. HBO wanted the fight.

    Yet he wants to fight some bum first? How many warm-ups did he need? Is he Kell Brook?

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    • Pain~Lucy
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      #32
      some posters here are blinded by the race they've chosen to support, whether that person is right or wrong smh

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Him declining Kovalev predates Al Haymon, but nice try.

        You're all about the money, yet the same guy months ago turned down a more lucrative offer to face Kovalev. How can you support turning down a more lucrative fight, since you understand the "business of boxing". Does stevenson hate money?
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        No, lets not backtrack. Stevenson clearly turned him down and HBO agreed to give him an intern fight as long as he faced Kovalev next, so they gave it to him. All of that came after, HBO wanted Stevenson-Kovalev, as did everyone else......well not everybody

        Now you said you understand the business of boxing, so explain why stevenson would turn down a more lucrative fight with Kovalev to fight Fonfara? This predates and doesnt involve Haymon
        Stevenson is trying to set up a bhop fight which would be more lucrative than a kkk fight. He clearly isn't keen on fighting Kkk and is trying to make as much as possible for the fight.

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        • DoubleLeftH00k
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          If your level of intelligence is so low that this is how you respond we can end the discussion.

          I didn't say anything about tough fights not happening. I said fighters should maximise their earnings. If you don't care about that cool.

          Networks can easily afford to pay fighters more. They can afford to insure them. They choose not to. Don't get mad when a fighters team puts their best interests first.
          ur still blinded
          u are just looking at the cover
          have u ever think what happens if a boxers team lean towards earning more money?
          lately they have figured it out that winning fights all the time mean money gonna build for their pockets....
          then that means they just have to fight a bunch of bums and keep winning

          now my question again why do like it?
          u earning money out of this missmatches?

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          • Fooliun_Smaxon
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            #35
            Bros, anyone who justifies ducking by using the "smart bisnis" argument is truly no boxing fan. They are admitting that they don't want their favourite fighter to test themselves. Just fools, probably just Showtime sock puppets.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Stevenson is trying to set up a bhop fight which would be more lucrative than a kkk fight. He clearly isn't keen on fighting Kkk and is trying to make as much as possible for the fight.
              He cant set up a Hopkins fight after fighting Kovalev?

              Hmmm lets play a game, whats more lucrative, Kovalev and Hopkins or Fonfara and Hopkins?

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              • DoubleLeftH00k
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                #37
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                No. It's called having your head screwed on.

                I don't "care" what a fighter makes but you need to understand that a fighter isn't going to take less money for a fight when there's more money in another fight just because some dweebs on a message board say so.

                It's not hard to understand.
                thats not what i meant
                my example is tough matches vs both well proven boxers
                not top class A fighter vs a green fighter

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                • Dirk Diggler UK
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k
                  thats not what i meant
                  my example is tough matches vs both well proven boxers
                  not top class A fighter vs a green fighter
                  Give an actual example.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k
                    ur still blinded
                    u are just looking at the cover
                    have u ever think what happens if a boxers team lean towards earning more money?
                    lately they have figured it out that winning fights all the time mean money gonna build for their pockets....
                    then that means they just have to fight a bunch of bums and keep winning

                    now my question again why do like it?
                    u earning money out of this missmatches?
                    Sadly, it's you who are blinded. Networks ok mismatches, not fighters. They do so because ratings are all that matters. Hbo knows, for example, kkk will get a 1.2 rating (on average) no matter who he fights. So they would welcome him fighting 2 stiffs before the Stevenson fight because it is little money for high ratings. Thats why he got a multi fight deal even without a Stevenson fight.

                    On the flip side Stevenson became an a side with the Dawson win. Now he sees a chance to fight 3 times and make aside money. Hbo is gonna get the same ratings from kkk as they would Stevenson, but Stevenson costs much more now that haymon is in the mix. So al mAkes a deal with Showtime and hbo doesn't match it because they don't want to pay more for the same rating.

                    Yes, we as fans get screwed. But if the networks are about the bottom line why would l d you expect fighters teams to be different?
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-26-2014, 09:52 AM.

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                    • DoubleLeftH00k
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Give an actual example.
                      biggest example
                      is floyd vs manny
                      it makes money but still not happening
                      khan vs broner it makes money but still not happening
                      ggg vs martinez it makes money still not happening
                      this are proven fighters vs proven fighters who boxing fans would spend money to watch

                      this are tough matches that makes money sense but cant seem to give us it
                      i know its prometers stopping it
                      but what i dont understand is fans who defends this business moves to maximize profit kind of stuff lol... so soft

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