do u hate it when boxing fans says..

[Russian Crushin]

2nd time you said this. Kkk chose agnew. Are they ******? Both chose setup fights. Been done throughout history.

He wanted Stevenson and stevenson declined, at which point he signed to fight Agnew.

Again why did stevenson choose Fonfara if its about maximizing the money?

[The Big Dunn]

So why turn down a fight where you would earn more?

Hbo had right of first refusal and didn't choose to match because Stevenson hired al haymon. If you blame only Stevenson, fine with me.

[DoubleLeftH00k]

When in the history of the sport has any boxer leaned towards glory? Do you even know what you are saying.

The problem is young fans like you have a misguided notion that fighters are supposed to work for less so you can get entertained. If you truly cared about the sport you would care about the well being of those involved in it.

wow im really surprise to see such people exist

come on its not like im wishing them dead when i wanted tough matches
do u think theyll die if i want to see the like of sergio vs ggg, manny vs floyd, khan vs broner?
im surprise of how soft minded u are
i would bet ud cry everytime ur favorite boxer gets knockout
and for sure every robbery like danny vs herrera u watch you'll say
"its all cool danny need the money most"

more money fights = mismatches in the future
why do u like it?

[DeadLikeMe]

cough....Raheem....Pacman.....cough.....


I'm not sure what to make of this Stevenson thing yet. Waiting til we hear a bit more from both sides. That is the problem on here. People are so quick to jump all over one side or the other, that the same posters always end up looking like idiots thread after thread.

[The Big Dunn]

He wanted Stevenson and stevenson declined, at which point he signed to fight Agnew.

Again why did stevenson choose Fonfara if its about maximizing the money?

That's not true. Hbo planned to have them fight on same card or a week or so apart to setup big fight later. Stevenson signed with haymon, herschman refuses to work with haymon, so they didn't match.

Now if you feel Stevenson shouldn't have signed with haymon, just say it.

[Russian Crushin]

Hbo had right of first refusal and didn't choose to match because Stevenson hired al haymon. If you blame only Stevenson, fine with me.

Him declining Kovalev predates Al Haymon, but nice try.

You're all about the money, yet the same guy months ago turned down a more lucrative offer to face Kovalev. How can you support turning down a more lucrative fight, since you understand the "business of boxing". Does stevenson hate money?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No. It's called having your head screwed on.

I don't "care" what a fighter makes but you need to understand that a fighter isn't going to take less money for a fight when there's more money in another fight just because some dweebs on a message board say so.

It's not hard to understand.

[Russian Crushin]

That's not true. Hbo planned to have them fight on same card or a week or so apart to setup big fight later. Stevenson signed with haymon, herschman refuses to work with haymon, so they didn't match.

Now if you feel Stevenson shouldn't have signed with haymon, just say it.

No, lets not backtrack. Stevenson clearly turned him down and HBO agreed to give him an intern fight as long as he faced Kovalev next, so they gave it to him. All of that came after, HBO wanted Stevenson-Kovalev, as did everyone else......well not everybody

Now you said you understand the business of boxing, so explain why stevenson would turn down a more lucrative fight with Kovalev to fight Fonfara? This predates and doesnt involve Haymon

[( . Y . )]

I hate it when people ignore the reality of economics in life and act like fighters owe it to fans who wouldn't raise a finger to help them to do whatever will excite them most as if they were free from the worries about lifelong financial stability. That's what I hate.

A fair point. But most fans love the sport also. You cant deny that Berto making millions to fight BS fights on HBO in the long run will kill the sport. So in the future fighters wont even have the opportunity to maximize their profits. There is a trade off. And most all time greats will tell you the money fades away but the glory is the last thing to go.

[The Big Dunn]

wow im really surprise to see such people exist

come on its not like im wishing them dead when i wanted tough matches
do u think theyll die if i want to see the like of sergio vs ggg, manny vs floyd, khan vs broner?
im surprise of how soft minded u are
i would bet ud cry everytime ur favorite boxer gets knockout
and for sure every robbery like danny vs herrera u watch you'll say
"its all cool danny need the money most"

more money fights = mismatches in the future
why do u like it?

If your level of intelligence is so low that this is how you respond we can end the discussion.

I didn't say anything about tough fights not happening. I said fighters should maximise their earnings. If you don't care about that cool.

Networks can easily afford to pay fighters more. They can afford to insure them. They choose not to. Don't get mad when a fighters team puts their best interests first.