do u hate it when boxing fans says..

[al-Xander]

Maybe some educated fight fans are adults that understand how the business of boxing works. Some of us understand that it's not always up to the fighter. Some of us understand that a fighter would rather go for a lot of money rather than some money. Some of us don't live in a fantasy world where boxing is a Rocky movie. It's a fucking business, and the sooner you realize that, the sooner you'll start pointing the finger at who it needs to be pointed to. You'll start putting the pressure on who it needs to be applied to. The sooner these fighters get what they want, you as a fan will get what you want, the fights you want to see. If you give a fighter what he wants, what does he have to object to? Simple mathematics

These are the same clowns who crucify HBO when talking about Rigondeux. These clowns need to disappear from any boxing forum. "Boxing is a business." GTFOH,

[The Big Dunn]

I know what you mean, I understand why they do it but I am not a promoter or a network exec and I don't care. I am a fan and I want the fights I want to see and don't care how they get it done or for their excuses why it doesn't get done.

They have a product, I am a potential consumer so.........what are we going to do here guys?

One way would be to stop watching fights on hbo and Showtime. We should all tune in to espn for the stiverne Chris fight. We should ask espn to get more involved with big fights.

We can start there.

[J The UnBiased]

These are the same clowns who crucify HBO when talking about Rigondeux. These clowns need to disappear from any boxing forum. "Boxing is a business." GTFOH,

you're another bitch made idiot who floods the forums on a daily because that's all you have going in your life. If HBO thinks Rigo's boring, fine. But it's up to his promoter Arum to put him in their with opponents that HBO wants. Which means, paying Rigo more.

[al-Xander]

you're another bitch made idiot who floods the forums on a daily because that's all you have going in your life. If HBO thinks Rigo's boring, fine. But it's up to his promoter Arum to put him in their with opponents that HBO wants. Which means, paying Rigo more.

There you go. And his name is unbiased. Haha... what a joke.

[New England]

"I just want to end world hunger"

"I just want to end poverty, violence and ****"

and do we not strive to achieve these goals?...or do we say **** it, because its too difficult?

Best fighting the best, thats the fundamental spirit of boxing, and its the essence of the definition of being a champion. and we should strive to uphold these ideals.

i want to end poverty. i also recognize that it cannot be done.

i want to end violence and ****. the only real way to do that is to lock everybody up before they commit crimes.


i'm not going to get into a game of semantics. you're comparing violence and poverty to boxing, which is absurd.


boxing has never been a compeition of the best fighting the best over and over again. go through the history. top fighters have never done that.

sometimes you get a hard luck fighter who goes through that and becomes a great and successful fighter through his talent and attrition. those guys are rare.

for the most part, boxing has seen its champions and top earners matched carefully. the intent is to maximize their profitability over the long run. they don't just fight the best available. they never have. when they start, the sport will fail. you cannot sustain that. you'd have great fighters retiring in their 20's, and without all that much money. you'll have businessmen moving away from boxing and onto something that will actually make them money.

[bbos]

i want to end poverty. i also recognize that it cannot be done.

i want to end violence and ****. the only real way to do that is to lock everybody up before they commit crimes.


i'm not going to get into a game of semantics. you're comparing violence and poverty to boxing, which is absurd.

cannot be done? few centuries ago, men flying, can not be done, moon landing, can not be done...we know little of this world, don't be so quick to make absolute statements on what can and can't be.

I'm not making a comparison, I'm alluding to the fact that you were criticizing fundamental ideas, you mock at hopes of perfection and quickly resolute to disparaging attempts towards progression to an idealistic reality.

boxing has never been a compeition of the best fighting the best over and over again. go through the history. top fighters have never done that.

why do people dismiss the relative validity of modern pro boxing when making a comparison to the golden age of boxing, because the old days of pugilism were closer to this ideal of competition, of the best fighting the best, its frequency was certainly higher, and competition of the 21st century pro boxing can be better than it is.

for the most part, boxing has seen its champions and top earners matched carefully. the intent is to maximize their profitability over the long run. they don't just fight the best available. they never have. when they start, the sport will fail. you cannot sustain that. you'd have great fighters retiring in their 20's, and without all that much money. you'll have businessmen moving away from boxing and onto something that will actually make them money.

how the sport sustains itself depends on how much revenue it can generate, which is contingent upon its popularity among the population, and paper champs such as adonis does not contribute to its popularity growth, nor to the idea of competitive pro boxing.

[Daddy T]

in other words do you hate stevenson/mayweather fans...

[brick wall]

fcuk these so called business in boxing.

we the fans are like the consumers, promoters/networks are the suppliers and the fighters/fights are the goods they sell.

fans/consumers should only care about getting their money's worth at the best possible quality. why do you care about what's good for them? you should care about what's good for you. if they can provide the quality that you want at a fair reasonable price then everything is good. if they overprice then you should not patronize.

[V.WEBB]

i generally find that people who get "mad" with people who concern themselves with the administration of boxing aren't that bright or successful.

"i just want the best to fight the best."

i just want to fly. i want to jump out of my window and take off from here. i don't care to come back.

[Daddy T]

fcuk these so called business in boxing.

we the fans are like the consumers, promoters/networks are the suppliers and the fighters/fights are the goods they sell.

fans/consumers should only care about getting their money's worth at the best possible quality. why do you care about what's good for them? you should care about what's good for you. if they can provide the quality that you want at a fair reasonable price then everything is good. if they overprice then you should not patronize.

Well i've said it before and I'll say it again ... it's the fans that support ducking with the 'it's good business' arguments that create ducking in the first place. if nobody buys/watches any stevenson fight until he fights kovalev - problem solved ... but this won't happen as 'it's good business' fans will always support and pay to watch a fighter that ducks ... hence said fighter will continue to duck... that's not the fighters fault ... hey if fans were willing to pay to watch me fight Fonawhatever rather than killer Kovalev ... I'd bl**dy well duck kovalev and fight Fonawhatever and say ... thank you very much