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  • Originally posted by daggum View Post
    calzaghe should have been dq'd in every single fight. 0-46. the reason people say he was so awkward was because boxers aren't used to fighting guys who break the rules constantly. it's a new thing fighting a guy who "punches" side to side instead of forward and back.
    I agree 100%

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    • Accomplishments, it is close, but I still agree with Kessler. Ward is still fighting so he can pass Calzaghe if he stays active.

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      • Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
        I don't know who's greater but Kessler and 'Calzaghe are friends and Kessler doesn't like Ward whatsoever so I'm not surprised he feels this way. It would be interesting to also hear Bika's opninion.
        Bika agrees.


        AW - Who’s the best fighter you have fought and why? Also, who was the best puncher and best boxer?

        SB - Joe Calzaghe. He could adapt to every tactic I used in the ring. He had an advantage being a southpaw too. Jaidon Codrington has been the only boxer to knock me down. Joe Calzaghe was the best boxer.

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        • not surprised. they are friends

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          • Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
            I would also add that Dawson beat BH so is greater than Ward and Floyd. BH is greater than Ward and Floyd.

            However Ward beat Dawson so is greater than Ward. Dawson is greater than Ward.

            So Ward is greater than Ward. When you're greater than yourself, you know youre great.
            lmaoooooo.......

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            • Originally posted by damned1974 View Post
              Unlike Calzaghe, Ward didn't need the ref to step in the fights to score faux wins when his opponents were suitable to continue fighting.

              Joe had many fights where the refs were 100% on his side and prematurely stopped fights...very blatantly after a weak punch.

              Yes, Ward rushed in with his head and created clashes, but you have to ask yourself why the hell Kessler didn't adjust or keep Ward on the outside of his jab? These clashes were not deliberate headbutts (ala Maidana/Broner), but a result of Ward quickly closing the distance from range to inside.
              he closed the distance by ramming his head towards Kesslers face. Sometimes he missed. Other times he connected. Moving in headfirst like that is a foul. Anywhere but jOakland that is.

              There's a reason why Ward will never fight in his opponents backyard.

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              • Originally posted by Cupo303 View Post
                It's irrelevant at this point. What is relevant is proper context and not revisionist history. And what is the context?

                The context is at what point of Ward's career the fight against Kessler took place. Kessler wasn't his career defining victory. The Kessler win was just the beginning of his career. Remember, that he and Dirrell at that time were the two noobs in the tournament and everyone was predicting a Kessler/Arthur Abraham/Carl Froch showdown. And Ward beat all three of them.


                And he still has years left to go.
                It's been several years since he last fought a legit challenge and there is no fight planned so Daggum should be happy.

                Anyway he'll likely face Kashtonov next. I believe the fight will be staged in jOakland. In a small club. Shown via tapedelay on ESPN3.

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                • Originally posted by jas View Post
                  he is obviously gonna say that given him and joe are friends and ward headbutted the **** out of him
                  Ward fought a very dirty fight but I think he would have still picked Joe because he was at his very best when Joe took him apart.

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                  • Our Andre outboxes Joe and the flies off on a giant bald eagle whilst (threw in something for the Brits) eating freedom fries and drinking coca cola. Murrica

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                    • Joe Calzaghe is legitimate P4P 1 fighter, Andre Fraud legitimate headbutting, clinching and cheating P4P 1.

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