Ariza - Manny chose to not accept Floyd offer

[Holywarrior]

Really bud? Liars in boxing? Aren't you a DLH, part time Floyd fanboy? Maybe if lies bother you so much, no need to look out for other fanbase feelings.

Koncz is an all around idiot. Not sure how much influence he has, but he claims they agreed on 14 days and might budge to 5-7 which is just fine. Pac saying unlimited, if that means 5-7 days no issue unless you're trying to nitpick your way out of the fight. But Floyd didn't wanna test that.

So what I'm a Delahoya or Floyd fan. I don't try and excuse all their lies and contradictions like you do for Manny, almost every day.

Do you work for Team Pacquiao? The way you try and pin EVERYTHING on everyone else but Team Pac makes me think you might be buboy. Because youre the only one on here trying to back up Manny when everyone else knows

[John Barron]

They agreed to Floyd's previous demand, and possibly better. We don't know how far they were willing to go as Floyd preferred not to call their bluff. Moved on to joke purse splits, then leave your promoter and join TMT

Nothing wrong with that, a reasonable window. A lot of guys would have a legit problem if randomly given the test fight night or day before, which Tygart could not exclude.

you can't hold manny accountable for anything. we know. manny never lies, manny agreed to everything, it's a non-issue when it's an issue.

[HeroBando]

you can't hold manny accountable for anything. we know. manny never lies, manny agreed to everything, it's a non-issue when it's an issue.

I just see short memories a lot, in threads like these. Or unwillingness to learn, like this MindBat poster etc

[Goldie]

True believer. After Pac made his 1st run for congress, they came back agreeing to Floyd's demands and better. They said no cutoff, or 7 days, either way reasonable. Floyd was put on the spot both by Team Pac and HBO boss Greenburg. His response: vacation. Next time he comes back to the negotiating table is years later, with a joke offer, meant more to insult than anything

You're the true believer with his head in the sand. Pacquiao gave every excuse in the book to walk any from the fight the 1st time because he was dirty and you accepted it. Floyd has been over the fight since and had basically said as much. You keep talking what Pacquiao came back claiming and offering after walking away from the fight the 1st time when that's all irrelevant. It's easy to talk about being willing to this and that when the other side isn't listening or taking you seriously. When the contract agreeing to a more than fair deal was on the line, Pacquiao walked away to fight Clottey. Nothing you're parroting changes that.

[HeroBando]

You're the true believer with his head in the sand. Pacquiao gave every excuse in the book to walk any from the fight the 1st time because he was dirty and you accepted it. Floyd has been over the fight since and had basically said as much. You keep talking what Pacquiao came back claiming and offering after walking away from the fight the 1st time when that's all irrelevant. It's easy to talk about being willing to this and that when the other side isn't listening or taking you seriously. When the contract agreeing to a more than fair deal was on the line, Pacquiao walked away to fight Clottey. Nothing you're parroting changes that.

So you're saying Floyd never had any intention of fighting Pac again, since spring 2010? Boxing fans would be disappointed to hear that, even some Floyd fans I bet.

It's a funny way of giving a guy his one and only shot, with

1. For Floyd an unprecedented demand, somewhat insulting.
2. A rushed negotiation/promotion for a mega fight. Remember Pac had to start his first campaign for congress in april and needed a fight done by march. They were still negotiating in january, right?
3. Using Pac's name non stop in future promotions

[JTfloyd]

Dumb dumb move by Manny to decline $40 mill with his tax issues and his promoter's double dipping in his pockets, to then sit by a phone expecting Floyd to make another offer for less. That's what's going to be remembered about is negotiating abilities.

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According to the ignorant Pacfans on here, he has nothing to worry about financially, because he's a politician. Anyway, he should've taken the 40mil when his dumb ass had the chance. Now he's relegated to fighting the Top Rank stable just to get out of debt.

[manoamano]

When Robert Garcia and his crew learn Ariza's teaining secrets they'll get rid of him too. Ariza should learn that boxing is full of snakes

[JTfloyd]

You're the true believer with his head in the sand. Pacquiao gave every excuse in the book to walk any from the fight the 1st time because he was dirty and you accepted it. Floyd has been over the fight since and had basically said as much. You keep talking what Pacquiao came back claiming and offering after walking away from the fight the 1st time when that's all irrelevant. It's easy to talk about being willing to this and that when the other side isn't listening or taking you seriously. When the contract agreeing to a more than fair deal was on the line, Pacquiao walked away to fight Clottey. Nothing you're parroting changes that.

Don't let something trivial like facts cloud your argument. Just present your opinion instead. That's all Pacfans seem to do. They can't get over the fact that their boy ducked the biggest money fight of all time because he was too scared to give blood. Yet, years later he managed to put his "fear" aside for Brandon Rios. lol.

[HeroBando]

According to the ignorant Pacfans on here, he has nothing to worry about financially, because he's a politician. Anyway, he should've taken the 40mil when his dumb ass had the chance. Now he's relegated to fighting the Top Rank stable just to get out of debt.

Who the fcuk said that? What i said is that going into politics is a better percentage play that record promotions, soft drinks, or ******** on sports. You think not?

Guy, do you understand that Top Rank and Pacquiao split over $40m for either JMM 3 or 4, fights nobody was overly excited coming up? And you're asking them to split that for the biggest money fight of all time. That's a slap in the face.

[Goldie]

So you're saying Floyd never had any intention of fighting Pac again, since spring 2010? Boxing fans would be disappointed to hear that, even some Floyd fans I bet.

It's a funny way of giving a guy his one and only shot, with

1. For Floyd an unprecedented demand, somewhat insulting.
2. A rushed negotiation/promotion for a mega fight. Remember Pac had to start his first campaign for congress in april and needed a fight done by march. They were still negotiating in january, right?
3. Using Pac's name non stop in future promotions

All you're doing is making excuses man. You don't sound like a fan you sound like someone on Pacquiao's payroll. If he was clean he woud've taken the tests. Excuses like "it's insulting.....blood tests weaken me.......I'm superstitious" don't fly. The excuse about running for congress and not having the time to make the fight is bs as well. If that was tw case the. Why sit down for serious begotiations in the 1st place? Why wasn't that the official reason for not makin the fight? The official reason was that they weren't obligated to do any testing outside of the commission. No, I don't think Mayweather had any real intention of pursuing the fight after that but it's clear that Arum and Pacquiao didn't want it when it was there to be had. As far as Mayweather using Pacquiao's name you have it backwards because it's Arim that has used Mayweather and the potential of that fight to push Pacquiao. Mayweather clearly doesn't need Pacquiao.