Ariza - Manny chose to not accept Floyd offer

[Goldie]

Don't let something trivial like facts cloud your argument. Just present your opinion instead. That's all Pacfans seem to do. They can't get over the fact that their boy ducked the biggest money fight of all time because he was too scared to give blood. Yet, years later he managed to put his "fear" aside for Brandon Rios. lol.

I know. Exposing Pacquiao fans is just a guilty pleasure.

[Holywarrior]

All you're doing is making excuses man. You don't sound like a fan you sound like someone on Pacquiao's payroll. If he was clean he woud've taken the tests. Excuses like "it's insulting.....blood tests weaken me.......I'm superstitious" don't fly. The excuse about running for congress and not having the time to make the fight is bs as well. If that was tw case the. Why sit down for serious begotiations in the 1st place? Why wasn't that the official reason for not makin the fight? The official reason was that they weren't obligated to do any testing outside of the commission. No, I don't think Mayweather had any real intention of pursuing the fight after that but it's clear that Arum and Pacquiao didn't want it when it was there to be had. As far as Mayweather using Pacquiao's name you have it backwards because it's Arim that has used Mayweather and the potential of that fight to push Pacquiao. Mayweather clearly doesn't need Pacquiao.

How about this vid? Go to 1:10, pure cringe

[al-Xander]

Wow. Floyd cult members defending the duck again. Floyd, the biggest cheater in the sport needs testing. What more level playing field does he need? He gets away with positive test results and he needs testing. Just like Berto and Pederson. They want to fight roided while their opponent is unroided. What disgusting human filth.

[HeroBando]

All you're doing is making excuses man. You don't sound like a fan you sound like someone on Pacquiao's payroll. If he was clean he woud've taken the tests. Excuses like "it's insulting.....blood tests weaken me.......I'm superstitious" don't fly. The excuse about running for congress and not having the time to make the fight is bs as well. If that was tw case the. Why sit down for serious begotiations in the 1st place? Why wasn't that the official reason for not makin the fight? The official reason was that they weren't obligated to do any testing outside of the commission. No, I don't think Mayweather had any real intention of pursuing the fight after that but it's clear that Arum and Pacquiao didn't want it when it was there to be had. As far as Mayweather using Pacquiao's name you have it backwards because it's Arim that has used Mayweather and the potential of that fight to push Pacquiao. Mayweather clearly doesn't need Pacquiao.

I never said anything about Pac being clean. For all I know both guys were using. But thanks for acknowledging Floyd never had any interest in the fight since, it's something I've been trying to convince your fellow flo mos here. Wanna help me out, I'll need a break soon?

[JTfloyd]

Who the fcuk said that? What i said is that going into politics is a better percentage play that record promotions, soft drinks, or ******** on sports. You think not?

Guy, do you understand that Top Rank and Pacquiao split over $40m for either JMM 3 or 4, fights nobody was overly excited coming up? And you're asking them to split that for the biggest money fight of all time. That's a slap in the face.

Guy. You can keep spinning all the **** you want. Your opinion, which is all you've presented, is useless. Anyone who's read this thread can see as such. Now keep making up numbers and presenting the bull**** in your head as fact. That's all your kind is good for. It must be hard to be a Pacfan these days. I'll laugh my goddamn ass off if Bradley beats him again.

[HeroBando]

Guy. You can keep spinning all the **** you want. Your opinion, which is all you've presented, is useless. Anyone who's read this thread can see as such. Now keep making up numbers and presenting the bull**** in your head as fact. That's all your kind is good for. It must be hard to be a Pacfan these days. I'll laugh my goddamn ass off if Bradley beats him again.

Ok lets not get defensive again when some numbers come out, someone might think youre too dumb to follow along when all you're trying to do is back out of the hot kitchen

[Goldie]

I never said anything about Pac being clean. For all I know both guys were using. But thanks for acknowledging Floyd never had any interest in the fight since, it's something I've been trying to convince your fellow flo mos here. Wanna help me out, I'll need a break soon?

You're right both guys could've been dirty and we don't know. What we do know is that Mayweather was willing to go the extra step to show that he wasn't dirty while Pacquiao gave a bunch of excuses why he wouldn't take that extra step. Can you acknowledge that?

I'll help convince Floyd fans that he hasn't really pursued the fight since Pacquiao walked away the 1st time and you can help convince Pacquiao fans that he ducked the fight in 2010 and hasn't genuinely pursued the fight since either. Thanks a lot.

[JTfloyd]

I know. Exposing Pacquiao fans is just a guilty pleasure.

It's funny to a point, but then you realize that Manny is all they have. lol. Anyway, Team Pac clearly ducked Mayweather, yet keep bringing his name up any chance they get. Whether it's Roach claiming that Manny's "speed" will overwhelm Floyd, Arum claiming that Floyd/Manny can happen if they both keep winning or Pac himself challenging Floyd to fight for charity, it's all bull****. Anything to give his ignorant-ass fanbase hope, I suppose.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He ducked Floyd for Clottey. Thats a fact.

[HeroBando]

You're right both guys could've been dirty and we don't know. What we do know is that Mayweather was willing to go the extra step to show that he wasn't dirty while Pacquiao gave a bunch of excuses why he wouldn't take that extra step. Can you acknowledge that?

I'll help convince Floyd fans that he hasn't really pursued the fight since Pacquiao walked away the 1st time and you can help convince Pacquiao fans that he ducked the fight in 2010 and hasn't genuinely pursued the fight since either. Thanks a lot.

Remember both Berto and Peterson were willing to go the extra step when they insisted on drug testing, unfortunately they contracted the wrong testing agency. GBP made sure that never happened again, with the same guys Floyd had lined up.

I wouldn't say he ducked in 2010, maybe spring of 2010 but by the summer Floyd had taken over the lead in ducking, and continued to widen the gap. I mean what's this one and done ****, are you a boxing fan at all?