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  • HeroBando
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    #151
    Originally posted by Goldie
    Pacquiao and Arum has played you numbskulls so thoroughly that it's funny. When Pacquiao walked away from Mayweaher to fight Clottey Floyd told the world that the concessions that he had made to try and get Pacquiao in the ring were off of the table. Arum knowing how dumb and full of hate a lot of boxing fans are took advantage of that by publicly claiming that Pacquio would agree to the terms that Mayweather had taken off of the table. Arum has never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring with Mayweather but you clowns will never come to grips with that.
    Is that why Floyd didn't even bother denying Pac's concession and went on vacation incognito? HBO pres Greenburg didn't deny it either, and thought he was negotiating and getting somewhere. But narrowing of the goalposts is just the familiar pattern you'd expect from Floyd here, thanks for noticing

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      #152
      Originally posted by Goldie
      Pacquiao and Arum has played you numbskulls so thoroughly that it's funny. When Pacquiao walked away from Mayweaher to fight Clottey Floyd told the world that the concessions that he had made to try and get Pacquiao in the ring were off of the table. Arum knowing how dumb and full of hate a lot of boxing fans are took advantage of that by publicly claiming that Pacquio would agree to the terms that Mayweather had taken off of the table. Arum has never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring with Mayweather but you clowns will never come to grips with that.
      These are the same folk who think Floyd "bought off" the police. Their opinions are worthless. Arum would rather see Pac knocked out by JMM (and keep the money in-house), than dismantled by Mayweather and have to split the revenue. Not only is Floyd a superior fighter than Pac EVER was, but he's a better promoter than Arum as well. Mayweather is breaking PPV records and making upwards of 70mil a fight. Only after he left Top Rank, did he become a star. Arum hates the fact that Floyd became the face of boxing (and #1 PPV draw) after leaving him. That's the part that Bobby can't get over.

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        #153
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Is that why Floyd didn't even bother denying Pac's concession and went on vacation incognito? HBO pres Greenburg didn't deny it either, and thought he was negotiating and getting somewhere. But narrowing of the goalposts is just the familiar pattern you'd expect from Floyd here, thanks for noticing
        What do you mean "Floyd didn't bother to deny Pacquiao's concession"? Arum/Pacquiao haven't made any concessions, they've just been pulling PR stunts fooling nincompoops into thinking that they are trying to get a fight with Mayweather. Same thing with Greenburg, that phantom 2nd round of negotiations was just him trying to make it look like he was on the verge of getting the fight done so that he could keep his job. There has only been 1 round of real negotiations and Pacquiao walked away making a million and one excuses. Arum/Pacquio have never really wanted the fight.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Goldie
          Pacquiao and Arum has played you numbskulls so thoroughly that it's funny. When Pacquiao walked away from Mayweaher to fight Clottey Floyd told the world that the concessions that he had made to try and get Pacquiao in the ring were off of the table. Arum knowing how dumb and full of hate a lot of boxing fans are took advantage of that by publicly claiming that Pacquio would agree to the terms that Mayweather had taken off of the table. Arum has never had any intention of putting Pacquiao in the ring with Mayweather but you clowns will never come to grips with that.
          He just doesn't get it. Puppet plays another puppet as a fool and they continue to believe. Poor tardos

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            #155
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Both of those guys aspired to be promoters. He's got different ambitions, in politics. That's his thing, but it can be quite lucrative long term, more so that lottery soda or philty rich records, and definitely more than sports betting.

            Okay, let me explain: Pac made 26m+ for JMM 3, 4, Bradley. Because Arum would be getting cut out of the promotion, he's due 27% of the 40m or something like that. That amounts to 29m for Pac. That's a 12% raise for the biggest fight of all time. Do you now understand why I said laughable, and why it was more of an insult and a roadblock, as usual?
            First off, you're in no position to explain a goddamn thing. Pac is a politician because he's famous and ****** enough to give money away. He doesn't even know where his money is going, hence VisionQwest being brought in to sort his **** out. And you're delirious if you think Pac ACTUALLY made that much for those fights. After Arum and Roach get their cut, what does that leave Pac with? lol. Anyway son, after getting schooled by Marquez, in what was the "Robbery of the Year", in what position was Pac in to turn down his biggest payday? Nevermind the fact that Arum ducked a May 5th fight with Mayweather, saying that "Manny's cut won't be healed in time". That kind of bull**** is the insult. But you can believe what you want.

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              #156
              Originally posted by Goldie
              What do you mean "Floyd didn't bother to deny Pacquiao's concession"? Arum/Pacquiao haven't made any concessions, they've just been pulling PR stunts fooling nincompoops into thinking that they are trying to get a fight with Mayweather. Same thing with Greenburg, that phantom 2nd round of negotiations was just him trying to make it look like he was on the verge of getting the fight done so that he could keep his job. There has only been 1 round of real negotiations and Pacquiao walked away making a million and one excuses. Arum/Pacquio have never really wanted the fight.
              True believer. After Pac made his 1st run for congress, they came back agreeing to Floyd's demands and better. They said no cutoff, or 7 days, either way reasonable. Floyd was put on the spot both by Team Pac and HBO boss Greenburg. His response: vacation. Next time he comes back to the negotiating table is years later, with a joke offer, meant more to insult than anything

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                #157
                Originally posted by JTfloyd
                First off, you're in no position to explain a goddamn thing. Pac is a politician because he's famous and ****** enough to give money away. He doesn't even know where his money is going, hence VisionQwest being brought in to sort his **** out. And you're delirious if you think Pac ACTUALLY made that much for those fights. After Arum and Roach get their cut, what does that leave Pac with? lol. Anyway son, after getting schooled by Marquez, in what was the "Robbery of the Year", in what position was Pac in to turn down his biggest payday? Nevermind the fact that Arum ducked a May 5th fight with Mayweather, saying that "Manny's cut won't be healed in time". That kind of bull**** is the insult. But you can believe what you want.
                Ok you sound defensive, so I'm guessing you understood the explanation. Cliff's Notes: a 12% raise over your standard purse, for the biggest fight of all time = "offer" designed to be rejected. Very simple

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Goldie
                  What do you mean "Floyd didn't bother to deny Pacquiao's concession"? Arum/Pacquiao haven't made any concessions, they've just been pulling PR stunts fooling nincompoops into thinking that they are trying to get a fight with Mayweather. Same thing with Greenburg, that phantom 2nd round of negotiations was just him trying to make it look like he was on the verge of getting the fight done so that he could keep his job. There has only been 1 round of real negotiations and Pacquiao walked away making a million and one excuses. Arum/Pacquio have never really wanted the fight.
                  The two best were, "scared of needles" and "blood tests weaken Manny". lol. Funny how Pacfans try to gloss that **** over like it didn't happen. They could've fought in May 2012, but Arum needed time to build a stadium. And apparently Pac couldn't have fought in May because the cut he sustained against JMM (in goddamn NOVEMBER), wouldn't be healed in time. But, in true fashion, his ignorant fans took Arum's word as gospel and it was back to hating on Mayweather for them.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Ok you sound defensive, so I'm guessing you understood the explanation. Cliff's Notes: a 12% raise over your standard purse, for the biggest fight of all time = "offer" designed to be rejected. Very simple
                    Defensive for dismissing your ******ity? If you say so, son. My point it, why did Pac turn down a CAREER HIGH payday when he looked like **** in his previous fight? Especially when he's STILL not getting paid anywhere NEAR that now. But then again, I'm trying to reason with someone who thinks Pac's political career is "lucrative", yet Freddy Roach stated that Pac needs to keep fighting because he needs the money.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by JTfloyd
                      Defensive for dismissing your ******ity? If you say so, son. My point it, why did Pac turn down a CAREER HIGH payday when he looked like **** in his previous fight? Especially when he's STILL not getting paid anywhere NEAR that now. But then again, I'm trying to reason with someone who thinks Pac's political career is "lucrative", yet Freddy Roach stated that Pac needs to keep fighting because he needs the money.
                      Because it's a 12% boost over freaking Bradley, for the biggest fight of all time. would Floyd take a 12% raise over what he made for Guerrero, for Pac? Of course Pac's value dropped after the JMM KO, duh.

                      You miss the point. Politics in general is lucrative, even in the third world (or especially). Now if Pac is reckless with hsi money, that's his problem. he'd have money issues if he was paid 2x. Just like Holyfield, Tyson who made crazy money and eventually went bankrupt. Prbably happens to Floyd with his spending habits as well.

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