Ariza - Manny chose to not accept Floyd offer

[HeroBando]

Dumb dumb move by Manny to decline $40 mill with his tax issues and his promoter's double dipping in his pockets, to then sit by a phone expecting Floyd to make another offer for less. That's what's going to be remembered about is negotiating abilities.

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For the 3rd time, this 40m comes out to 29m for Pac. Instead he took 26m for Marquez, after making 26m for freaking Bradley. Can you not fcuking see how this is a joke offer designed to be rejected?

[Holywarrior]

Nothing wrong with that, a reasonable window. A lot of guys would have a legit problem if randomly given the test fight night or day before, which Tygart could not exclude.

The fact that Manny lied to all his fans about it is what bothers me.

[HeroBando]

The fact that Manny lied to all his fans about it is what bothers me.

Right, your main concern is the well being of Pac's fans lol. I don't see a lie, they agreed to Floyd's previous terms and maybe had extra leeway they wre willing to give at the negotiating table, which is probably what sent Floyd to sudden low key vacation

[Holywarrior]

Right, your main concern is the well being of Pac's fans lol. I don't see a lie, they agreed to Floyd's previous terms and maybe had extra leeway they wre willing to give at the negotiating table, which is probably what sent Floyd to sudden low key vacation

I just wanted to see a good fight, and Team Manny prevented it from happening.

It doesn't matter what you think is "good" He said straight up that he'd do testing all the way no cutoffs. Why lie to the public?

[HeroBando]

I just wanted to see a good fight, and Team Manny prevented it from happening.

It doesn't matter what you think is "good" He said straight up that he'd do testing all the way no cutoffs. Why lie to the public?

How did he prevent it, by going on vacation when opponent made the #1 concession and HBO boss was in the middle of a negotiation? By offering the other guy a comical flat fee, or requiring him to leave his promoter ("partner" in Floyd's case)?

He was never called on that no cutoffs by Floyd, opportunity missed. Maybe he was willing, maybe 7 days, either one good enough.

[Light_Speed]

The initial offer of 50/50 split and random testing with 14 day window before the fight, that was a great offer. The second offer of keeping 100% of ppv $$$ and giving Manny a flat fee, that was a BS offer.

[Holywarrior]

How did he prevent it, by going on vacation when opponent made the #1 concession and HBO boss was in the middle of a negotiation? By offering the other guy a comical flat fee, or requiring him to leave his promoter ("partner" in Floyd's case)?

He was never called on that no cutoffs by Floyd, opportunity missed. Maybe he was willing, maybe 7 days, either one good enough.

Mayweather clearly stated after the Mosley fight theyd do testing all the way from then on. Manny said no problem.

Then he lied.

[HeroBando]

Mayweather clearly stated after the Mosley fight theyd do testing all the way from then on. Manny said no problem.

Then he lied.

It's tough to say cause Floyd wasn't around to call his bluff. On vacation. Never really tested that angle again, went with the more reliable lowballing and such

[Holywarrior]

It's tough to say cause Floyd wasn't around to call his bluff. On vacation. Never really tested that angle again, went with the more reliable lowballing and such

Koncz exposed Manny as a liar on TV. I'm not here to take sides, I'm just not ok with Manny and Floyd's hesitance and lies.

[HeroBando]

Koncz exposed Manny as a liar on TV. I'm not here to take sides, I'm just not ok with Manny and Floyd's hesitance and lies.

Really bud? Liars in boxing? Aren't you a DLH, part time Floyd fanboy? Maybe if lies bother you so much, no need to look out for other fanbase feelings.

Koncz is an all around idiot. Not sure how much influence he has, but he claims they agreed on 14 days and might budge to 5-7 which is just fine. Pac saying unlimited, if that means 5-7 days no issue unless you're trying to nitpick your way out of the fight. But Floyd didn't wanna test that.