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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    In an interview that I saw, Mayweather seemed earnest in his complaint of not getting credit for his efforts.

    To answer your question, Floyd's the highest paid, highest profile, best (so they say) p4p undefeated fighter on the planet. Such fame does not exist without consequence, especially if there is any controversy involved.
    Come on. You've been around here long enough to know how it works. You get a piece of video, etc etc.

    Your post has merit because you expect the best to be held to a different standard. whats problematic is when you suggest he isn't the best (as you did above) then fail to hold the guy who you think is the best to the same standard as floyd or criticize that fighter in the same vein.

    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
    hmm, perhaps ur right when speaking on just this board. but in general, i see alot of people on both sides.... the hardcore floyd fans really disguised as pacman haters as well. these idiots are really closet racists, who have a deep hatred for filipinos. they post just as much BS as these pac fans u say you see
    I don't post on any other boxing site so I can't comment. I am not the biggest manny fan but it has nothing to do with him being filipino.

    As for NSB, I think those responses you cite are are proportional. The problem is too many floyd fans assume every manny fan or poster that doesn't like floyd is a rascist like gong, thuggery, maniac, garcia's dad, and hectari or has a "northern european/caucasoidal" agenda like freedom, weltshmerz, eisenfaust or slimshandy.

    I mysef have made that mistake and wish I had not.

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      #72
      Originally posted by J The UnBiased
      This is what I will never understand, how are these opponents not legitimate? No one is saying these are ATG opponents, no one is saying that these guys are going to beat Floyd, what we are saying is that Floyd is fighting good opponents coming off of their best performances. What is wrong with that? We know the top rank fights aren't happening, and you can act like a little kid in a store that can't get his candy all you want and pretend like the fights are makeable but the reality is they are not. No one likes it, but we aren't gonna sit here and cry about it because it won't help anything. So, consistently beating good opponents with titles, add to the fact that Garcia and Lara (future p4p fighters) will be added to Floyd's resume, I'm totally fine with it. what are we crying about?

      Floyd wont fight Lara.

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      • sugarsmosley
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        #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Come on. You've been around here long enough to know how it works. You get a piece of video, etc etc.

        Your post has merit because you expect the best to be held to a different standard. whats problematic is when you suggest he isn't the best (as you did above) then fail to hold the guy who you think is the best to the same standard as floyd or criticize that fighter in the same vein.



        I don't post on any other boxing site so I can't comment. I am not the biggest manny fan but it has nothing to do with him being filipino.

        As for NSB, I think those responses you cite are are proportional. The problem is too many floyd fans assume every manny fan or poster that doesn't like floyd is a rascist like gong, thuggery, maniac, garcia's dad, and hectari or has a "northern european/caucasoidal" agenda like freedom, weltshmerz, eisenfaust or slimshandy.

        I mysef have made that mistake and wish I had not.
        lol ya know, not all those posters you named are bad posters or racists. i think some just mess around and dont take this site very seriously. take me, look at my avi im a manny fan. i respect floyd its a clear fact hes a legend in the sport... some dont what can you do. theres some manny fans like me, bojangles, rome by ko, and others that give floyd alot of props.

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          #74
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          Originally Posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
          "world champions" is subjective. so are top 3 contenders. there is only one champ per division. this is why NAMES matter not rankings or paper titles.

          i dont care what anyone says no one views guys like baldomir and diaz "champions"
          exactly.....................................
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          Originally posted by J The UnBiased
          exactly.....................................


          Then why are you saying all Floyd fights are champions?

          Its not the end of the world to acknowledge that Floyd and Manny have fought some sizzle-and-no-steak-fighters in order to snatch easy paper division titles.

          I agree that people should not be crapping over these type of opponents. But its equally bad to claim they are world champions.

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          • J The UnBiased
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            #75
            Originally posted by whytetittie
            Floyd wont fight Lara.
            Lara beats Ishe, fights on Floyd's undercard in September and has another good win at 154 or get's Canelo, Floyd/Lara happens. But, only if there's more money in it than it is now.

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            • RlCKY
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              #76
              Originally posted by J The UnBiased
              If you're cherry picking world champions and top 3 contenders, I have no problem with it. If those fights are cherry picks, so be it. If every fight you take is a cherry pick outside of 1 man who's on the down slope of his career, so be it. I have no problem with it.
              That's the beauty of the cherry pick. Designed not to look as such.

              The point is to challenge yourself. I don't expect HOF fighters every time out, but there's only one fight everyone wants to see.

              And I don't care about why it's not happening, that's not my problem. Blame goes all around, but in the mean time you guys keep buying into the **** from both fighters.

              It's sad that we've come to expect AND accept this from the marquee participant of the ultimate competitive sport.

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              • J The UnBiased
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                #77
                Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
                "world champions" is subjective. so are top 3 contenders. there is only one champ per division. this is why NAMES matter not rankings or paper titles.

                i dont care what anyone says no one views guys like baldomir and diaz "champions"
                exactly.....................................
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                Then why are you saying all Floyd fights are champions?

                Its not the end of the world to acknowledge that Floyd and Manny have fought some sizzle-and-no-steak-fighters in order to snatch easy paper division titles.

                I agree that people should not be crapping over these type of opponents. But its equally bad to claim they are world champions.
                so it's bad to call them what they are? take you're opinion out of it because it's not about you bruh, we're talking facts. When Steve Nash was getting back to back MVP's he never got my recognition, clearly the best basketbal player in the world was Kobe Bryant, but, Steve Nash had the title, therefore he was in fact the MVP regardless of what anyone's opinion is.

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                • J The UnBiased
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by RlCKY
                  That's the beauty of the cherry pick. Designed not to look as such.

                  The point is to challenge yourself. I don't expect HOF fighters every time out, but there's only one fight everyone wants to see.

                  And I don't care about why it's not happening, that's not my problem. Blame goes all around, but in the mean time you guys keep buying into the **** from both fighters.

                  It's sad that we've come to expect AND accept this from the marquee participant of the ultimate competitive sport.
                  Ok, you can't get the fight you want. Now, what are you going to do?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by J The UnBiased
                    Maidana- WBA Champ (coming off his biggest win)
                    Canelo- WBC/WBA Champ (coming off his biggest win)
                    Guerrero- Interim WBC Champ (coming off his biggest win)
                    Cotto- WBA Champ (coming off his biggest win at the weight)
                    Ortiz- WBC Champ (coming off his biggest win)
                    Mosley- WBA Champ (coming off the win that solidified his p4p status)

                    Keep on cherry picking Floyd.
                    You dirty Rigondeaux's name, we forbid you from being a fan from this moment forth.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                      lol ya know, not all those posters you named are bad posters or racists. i think some just mess around and dont take this site very seriously. take me, look at my avi im a manny fan. i respect floyd its a clear fact hes a legend in the sport... some dont what can you do. theres some manny fans like me, bojangles, rome by ko, and others that give floyd alot of props.
                      We will agree to disagree about the posters I listed. But I do agree there are manny fans that are ok. Thats why I posted I wished i hadn't mistaken them. I should never have lumped them all together.

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