Has Floyd fought someone as good as Chavez Sr and Leonard?

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  • Holywarrior
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    #41
    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
    He was bigger than Casamayor, and based on the attributes of each fighter, I'd definitely give JCC the win.

    He was the master ring cutter, and would brutalize Casamayor on the inside.

    Are you trying to tell me that Casamayor would beat JCC?
    Chavez was bigger only because he couldn't get away from the Coronas eh,,,,

    A great ring cutter, that's fine, but he never beat up and outclassed a better fighter than a prime Casamayor, give him all the fake wins you want. It's not happening.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Holywarrior
      Chavez was bigger only because he couldn't get away from the Coronas eh,,,,

      A great ring cutter, that's fine, but he never beat up and outclassed a better fighter than a prime Casamayor, give him all the fake wins you want. It's not happening.
      Haha, you seem to be set in your ways. It's cool. I love Casamyor. I'm just saying, Chavez would beat that ass.

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      • Fetta
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        #43
        There is no one as good as chavez or leonard in this era.

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        • Holywarrior
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          #44
          Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
          Haha, you seem to be set in your ways. It's cool. I love Casamyor. I'm just saying, Chavez would beat that ass.
          Fair enough buddy, Chavez is the man though.

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          • Dinamita 03
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            #45
            Originally posted by NearHypnos
            It took a loong time for that to happen. So long I'm surprised you even mentioned it...

            I think that as great as Sr was, there comes a time where someone is so good that the size difference tips the scale in a big way. I'm almost a sr nut hugger (from culiacan and all..) but it'd be silly to thing Chavez just runs through prime versions of Shane and Oscar.

            Chavez vs Shane would have been a war but you have to wonder how much punishment Chavez would be able to take from a prime Shane (likewise for Oscar).
            I understand that the only reason I stated that was because he was so adamant about his tale of the tape theory. In retrospect Chavez Against either of their guys would've been great fights and hard to predict I still say it's laughable that both guys beat a prime Sr. handily without breaking a sweat as Kev implied simply on height and reach advantages.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Dinamita 03
              You seem to place a big emphasis on physical attributes yet both guys lost to smaller men in their careers.
              What smaller men did they lose to in their prime? You realize Chavez is no Mayweather and no Pacquiao?

              Mosley losses:
              Forrest 2x- 154 - Boxer/defensive type, 6' - 73"
              Winky 2x- 154 - Boxer/defensive, 5' 11" - 72"
              De La Hoya II*(Arguable) - 154 - 5' 11" - 73"


              DLH Losses in his prime:
              Trinidad* - 5' 11" - 73" Reach
              Hopkins - 6' 1" - 75"
              Sturm - 6' - 73"
              Mosley - 5' 9" - 71"

              Size, height is not the be all, end all in boxing. It is size, height and skill. When you are bigger and taller, and skillful, it will take another big, tall and skillful opponent to take you on, most of the time, unless you run into a very, very good shorter fighter. Chavez at 5' 7" with his short 65" reach just wouldn't cut it for a prime DLH/Mosley.

              Even Mayweather at 5' 8" has unusually long reach at 72".

              Again, don't mistake my post with me saying "Height and reach bats anything". I am saying height/size, and reach in relation to skill is a very important combination.

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              • Ham Porter
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                #47
                @ De La Hoya being 5-11. I've seen some bull**** height listings in my time and that's definitely up there.



                Originally posted by Jack Napier
                Mosley's only good win at LW was Holiday btw


                He looked like crap against him. Didn't have a clue on how to cope with Holiday's constant smothering, which completely negated Mosley's offensive prowess.


                But yeah, Chavez doesn't stand a chance against this dude.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
                  Sounds like you have a fan, Kev.
                  LOL, guy has green k' me twice in the past 6 months, calling one of the best posters . He's emotional for obvious reasons, he has Chavez on his avatar and i'm saying Mosley and DLH beat him.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MGMGRAND
                    His father fought Sugar Ray Leonard and Roger Mayweather fought Julio Chavez Sr, has Floyd fought any one with the status and skill of those 2?
                    No he has not,, and not even close... His dad fought a young prime srl, and roger fought a prime Chavez twice,,,,,

                    Floyd has never fought anyone anywhere near that caliber of fighter

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                    • American Dream
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                      #50
                      Chavez, maybe..SRL.. NO ONE exists in this era of that magnitude.

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