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  • GOD-FR33
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    #41
    My opinion

    Why is this even a thread? Hopkins defeated Tito for the same reasons he defeated Oscar, Wright, and Pavlik. He was too BIG! He did what he was supposed to do in those fights. What was so impressive about any of those wins? Would he have done that to a fighter his size? Of course not. Hopkins is feather-fisted. He has decent pop in the right hand but that's it. I never liked him or his "survival" style. He should've been a wrestler. He's over-rated. Hagler and Monzon both were better and would've beat him. Hagler is the greatest middleweight ever, not Robinson. Leonard is the greatest "Sugar" and would've beaten both Hopkins and Robinson.

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      #42
      If you skip to an hour sixteen or so, after Trinidad is up and his corner is coming to him, it looks like he knocked Hopkins out. Hopkins is flat on his back in the center of the ring like he got put down.

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        #43
        Originally posted by GOD-FR33
        Why is this even a thread? Hopkins defeated Tito for the same reasons he defeated Oscar, Wright, and Pavlik. He was too BIG! He did what he was supposed to do in those fights. What was so impressive about any of those wins? Would he have done that to a fighter his size? Of course not. Hopkins is feather-fisted. He has decent pop in the right hand but that's it. I never liked him or his "survival" style. He should've been a wrestler. He's over-rated. Hagler and Monzon both were better and would've beat him. Hagler is the greatest middleweight ever, not Robinson. Leonard is the greatest "Sugar" and would've beaten both Hopkins and Robinson.
        Who are Haglers best wins again? Thanks in advance!

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          #44
          Originally posted by DLT
          no one ever really talks about the specific part of the KO itself but to me that may have been the greatest or one of the greatest single moves (or whatever you want to call it) in boxing history. The way Tito throws his patented left hook but Hopkins did something you rarely ever see done.

          He actually block Tito's left hook with his own left forearm. Thats crazy. He brought his left arm across his body to block Tito's left hook. Then to finish it off in that same single motion he comes back with his own right right hook even though he's a righty. Just an ATG move to me that I think goes somewhat overlooked.

          you can see it here live at the 1:16 mark and the replay at like 1:17:30

          Yeahs and a lot of trainers wont even teach the right hook claiming its not a legitimate punch

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          • GOD-FR33
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            #45
            No need........

            We could do this all day, man. I know the sport. I will not go back and forth with you on my opinion. That's why it's MY OPINION. It's not up for debate. Hagler was the better fighter. Better jab, better combination puncher, better work-rate, and he was tougher. He would out-work Hopkins at worse. Who was Hagler's best win? Does it matter? All you need to know is that Hagler would've Ko'ed Jermaine Taylor; something your feather-fisted boy couldn't do.

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              #46
              Originally posted by GOD-FR33
              We could do this all day, man. I know the sport. I will not go back and forth with you on my opinion. That's why it's MY OPINION. It's not up for debate. Hagler was the better fighter. Better jab, better combination puncher, better work-rate, and he was tougher. He would out-work Hopkins at worse. Who was Hagler's best win? Does it matter? All you need to know is that Hagler would've Ko'ed Jermaine Taylor; something your feather-fisted boy couldn't do.
              I don't mind Hagler was the GOAT at MW, but when you downplay hopkins best wins over smaller fighters but praise Hagler who's greatest wins were against smaller fighters I'm gonna call you on it.

              As for Taylor, at what age did Hagler retire again? Because Hopkins was 40 years old against Taylor. We never saw what a 40 year old Hagler looked like. Hopkins was and is obviously still good post 40, but he's been past prime for many years.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
                Have to give props to Hopkins, he exposed this cheater, Tito's "famous" left hook was nothing without his wraps, too bad he kept wrapping his hands the same way after this loss.
                There was only one hand that needed to be re-wrapped and it was his right hand.

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                  #48
                  the outcome would,ve been the same prior to 9/11 Hopkins beats him the weekend on the scheduled date or, two weeks after 9/11...either way Hopkins wins...

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                    #49
                    Smaller fighters.....

                    Comparing Hagler's "smaller" opponents to Hopkins's opponents, just isn't fair, really. Did you know that Duran was the first fighter to go all 15 with Hagler in a championship fight? We all know that Duran wasn't normal. No one on Hopkins list of opponents were tougher than Duran. I don't care how big or small they were. How about the killer that John The Beast Mugabi was when Hagler Ko'ed him? Would Hopkins had done the same? It's debatable man. Hagler's toughness and relentlessness was rare. Hopkins is a good fighter who is good at surviving but his fighting style sucks. It always has. In my opinion, he's over-rated.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GOD-FR33
                      We could do this all day, man. I know the sport. I will not go back and forth with you on my opinion. That's why it's MY OPINION. It's not up for debate. Hagler was the better fighter. Better jab, better combination puncher, better work-rate, and he was tougher. He would out-work Hopkins at worse. Who was Hagler's best win? Does it matter? All you need to know is that Hagler would've Ko'ed Jermaine Taylor; something your feather-fisted boy couldn't do.
                      lol hopkins fought taylor at 40 years old hagler retired at 32. Taylor would of knocked out hagler in one round if he fought him when he was 40 idiot. Hopkins in his prime was a superior boxer to hagler and would have beat him on points.

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