Comments Thread For: Roach: Khan Can't Beat Mayweather, PPV Will Lose Money

[smoothsmg]

What the hell are you talking about? Showtime has been doing amazing numbers and ratings. They're overall viewership has gone up, and in some cases has outcompeted HBO, who has a much larger viewership.

Showtime is happy, and many subscribers are happy.

Im utterly happy with my choice of getting Shotime at the beginning of 2012 for the sake of boxing. I have been very happy. Since I have had it, easily they have put on better shows overall as compared to HBO.

[The Big Dunn]

It's general knowledge that SHO is spending gargantuan amounts of money on Mayweather fights. They lost money on the Guerrero fight and barely recovered in the Canelo fight. Anyone can do the math starting from Money Mayweather's $40 million guarantee, expensive undercards, expensive tour, expensive promotion, live weigh in, you name it. This is not rocket science.

Mayweather is supposed to enrich SHO with truckloads of money. That has not been the case. I'm a subscriber and I barely see Bernstein, Kenny, et al. Regular boxing is so infrequent. Subscribers didn't benefit at all from this Mayweather connection. He just messed things up. Showtime and GBP are focused on PPVs, which have nothing to do with Showtime. PPVs can be carried by any network. Can't wait to see this guy retire.

If showtime is losing money as you say, why haven't they exercised the out clause and terminated floyd's contract?

Why would CBS President Moonves allow Espinoza to lose money like this when he can easily tell him to drop floyd?

Lemme guess, floyd controls CBS like he does USADA.

[lillu89]

I specifically remember Roach saying he had two fighters in his gym that can beat Floyd. He was referring to Pac and Khan.
Someone should show him that quote.

Yup I also remember that post right here on boxingscene.

[al-Xander]

If showtime is losing money as you say, why haven't they exercised the out clause and terminated floyd's contract?

Why would CBS President Moonves allow Espinoza to lose money like this when he can easily tell him to drop floyd?

Lemme guess, floyd controls CBS like he does USADA.

They'll drop Money Mayweather eventually the way it's going. Look at them, they don't know what to do with his next fight. They're thinking too hard. Let's set things straight. Showtime's objective is to woo subscribers, not PPV buyers. They have nothing in February. March is PPV, May is PPV. I'm guessing even the Maidana vs Broner's April fight might even land in the May undercards to support Money Mayweather's Cinco de Mayo fight.

[al-Xander]

What the hell are you talking about? Showtime has been doing amazing numbers and ratings. They're overall viewership has gone up, and in some cases has outcompeted HBO, who has a much larger viewership.

Showtime is happy, and many subscribers are happy.

Showtime's regular boxing is very rare. If you're a subscriber you will notice this. Do you see Bernstein, Kenny, etc, often? Where is Matthysse, Guerrero, etc? Where is their so-called deep division? Why are these fighters on a long layoff? Because they focus too much on PPVs, particularly Mayweather's expensive fights. They have little left for subscribers.

[!! Shawn]

Roach is right,it's a horrible fight..This will be the first Mayweather PPV I have not paid for,ever!!!Damn money,say it an't so..

Same here, I almost didn't buy the Guerrero fight, but I definitely wouldn't be buying the Khan fight.

[Fetta]

Dont care if it has 1 PPV but im buying it.

[The Big Dunn]

They'll drop Money Mayweather eventually the way it's going. Look at them, they don't know what to do with his next fight. They're thinking too hard. Let's set things straight. Showtime's objective is to woo subscribers, not PPV buyers. They have nothing in February. March is PPV, May is PPV. I'm guessing even the Maidana vs Broner's April fight might even land in the May undercards to support Money Mayweather's Cinco de Mayo fight.

You didn't answer either question. If your previous post had any validity, sho or CBS would've long cancelled floyd's deal.

SHo and CBS are doing very well since the floyd deal. I know this bothers you. SO you make up things to make yourself feel better.

[al-Xander]

You didn't answer either question. If your previous post had any validity, sho or CBS would've long cancelled floyd's deal.

SHo and CBS are doing very well since the floyd deal. I know this bothers you. SO you make up things to make yourself feel better.

I'm a SHO subscriber. Can't wait to see you hero retire.
PPVs are not for subscribers. Perhaps when he retires
SHO would focus more on future stars and see them often.
Right now they're spending gargantuan amounts of money
on Mayweather fights, leaving very little for other fighters.
Floyd's guarantee alone will present all kind of problems
on any network. I don't wonder why HBO dropped him.

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"I can't tell you that pay-per-view helps the sport because it doesn't. It hurts the sport because it narrows our audience, but it's a fact of life. Every time we try to make an HBO World Championship Boxing fight, we're up against mythical pay-per-view numbers. HBO doesn't make a lot of money from pay-per-view. There's usually a cap on what we can make. But the promoters and fighters insist on pay-per-view because that's where their greatest profits lie." -- Ross Greenburg 2007

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

Roach took one too many kicks to the torso during that trip to China. Floyd's numbers are going to suffer because the only people worth fighting are either with Top Rank or they aren't big enough names for casual fans to be interested in. Khan has a big fan base and Maidana inherited all of Matthysse's bandwagon fans. I for one, am only interested in seeing him fight either Erislandy Lara or Tim Bradley.