Duran lost biggest fights yet PFP great.

[UTEP]

Only the greatest Latino boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves but nah he ain't great.


Why don't you do us all a favor and jump in front of a train, TS.

[Brandish]

Brandish is back....and guess what's it for? A Duran bait thread! Who'd have thunk it...

I feel pity for you when I read your posts. Genuine pity.

I believe you have Whitaker ranked in the top ten right?

no i dont have whitaker top ten. but he is definitely ranked higher than duran . sweet pea is top 15-20 duran top 30-40,

Which top ten ATG do you have him beating to judge him? The way you rate your top guys, Duran is better in nearly every category.

i dont have sugar ray leonard as a top ten atg ray is top 15 at best i wouldnt argue if someone had him top 20. Rays claim to fame is beating, hearns and hagler that doesnt place you top ten all time, longevity, domination of your division, those things matter. one victory doesnt make you an ATG.

you duran fanatics like to hang on the ray leonard victory, but i count losses as well and duran lost to ray 2 times both in embarrassing fashion.

[QUOTE]For instance you say Leonard isn't in your top ten because he doesn't have enough title defenses. Duran had the most title defenses at 135 with 12

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duran had 12 title defenses at 135, sweet pea 11, chavez over 15, whats your point. duran did not beat a single atg at his weight 135, not one. but he dominated his original weight class with poor comp so i gave him a B. defending your title twelve times against mediocre comp doesnt make you top ten all-time unless your a duran fanatic.

Let me guess, that particular way you rank fighters doesn't apply with Duran. Only when it suits you. Funny that.

same criteria applies to everyone thats why ray is not top ten all-time.

Longer prime title reign. More title defenses. Beat HOFers in those title defenses/wins. More weight divisions with titles. Greater single win than any fighter of the entire modern era. Add all that up....whatever way you rank fighters, you lose out 9/10.

thats where you fail with the duran cuckoos, duran won against leonard big deal that doesnt make you top ten all time, your entire career losses and victories count, with duran fanatics such as your self he never lost a fight, dominated 147, moved up to 154 dominated, and then moved on to 160 and dominated.

wrong he struggled with all of the ATG and got lucky with ray the first time, second and third fights we saw what he was made of. i view duran realistically he gets credit for winning the title but he gets no points for defending it and that is just as important as winning the title.

if you win a title and in your next fight you get tkoed you will be remembered as a one hit wonder.

duran lost every fight to all the ATG of his era because his style was limited, if he was a true grandmaster he would have won more than one fight against the big boys. duran is like the oscar de la hoya of his era, never could win the big one.



In fact, where do you have Sweet Pea ranked as an ATG and at 135? Don't dodge, just answer it.[/QUOTE]

why do you need to see my list why havent you produced one? at 135 i have swet pea 1 duran 2, chavez 3

[Brandish]

Only the greatest Latino boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves but nah he ain't great.


Why don't you do us all a favor and jump in front of a train, TS.

really the greatest lol based on what beating ray leonard get real.

[Brandish]

Why are you trying to make out Duran has a weak resume? He's a top 20 ATG without question to me. He had an outstanding run at LW. He beat the likes of Buchanan, Marcel, Kobayashi, Ishimatsu etc and avenged his loss to a great in DeJesus. and of course has probably the greatest win of his generation vs a prime Sugar Ray.

His greatness is undeniable.



I'm pretty sure he was being ironic due to the idiocy of this thread.

now this is what im talking about only a duran cuckoo would list esteban de jesus as an atg, along with ken buchannan lol, and then to make it worse you guiys say he beat ray leonard, ok what happended in the rematch? you guys have selected memory.

duran was a good fighter but top ten atg you gotta be kidding me you dont quit against another atg liek that and get ranked anywhere near my top ten, that is reserved for legends, not quitters

[-Antonio-]

I know you're just trying to troll Brandish but whats you're top 20 list?

[elgranluchadore]

hey at least he's not saying floyd or pacman are better

[Brandish]

I know you're just trying to troll Brandish but whats you're top 20 list?

your a damn ****** if you think duran is top ten or top 20 all-time, but keep circle jerking yourself im here to roll you into the pysch ward..

[BattlingNelson]

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at 135 i have swet pea 1 duran 2, chavez 3

Duran at no.2 in the deepest division of boxing even though he never, according to Brandish, beat an ATG.

I wonder how Brandish ranks Gans and Benny Leonard.

Brandish: Dont answer. I dont give a **** about your opinion.

[LacedUp]

now this is what im talking about only a duran cuckoo would list esteban de jesus as an atg, along with ken buchannan lol, and then to make it worse you guiys say he beat ray leonard, ok what happended in the rematch? you guys have selected memory.

duran was a good fighter but top ten atg you gotta be kidding me you dont quit against another atg liek that and get ranked anywhere near my top ten, that is reserved for legends, not quitters

Where did I say DeJesus was an ATG? He's a quality lightweight, is that not true? One of the best of his era? Same with Ken Buchanan.

If you really have to ask what happened in the rematch, then you haven't put yourself into the situation. And regardless, they were two ATGs fighting each other.

Same with Locche vs Cervantes - Locche beat Cervantes every single round in their first fight, yet lost a rematch. What does it prove? Leonard was, in my opinion, the best fighter of his generation - yet he still lost his first fight to Duran - a fight for which he was a heavy favourite btw. Dismissing that win is just ridiculous.

[LacedUp]

Duran at no.2 in the deepest division of boxing even though he never, according to Brandish, beat an ATG.

I wonder how Brandish ranks Gans and Benny Leonard.

Brandish: Dont answer. I dont give a **** about your opinion.