Duran lost biggest fights yet PFP great.

[Brandish]

OK I found it. That's interesting You have Tommy Hearns in the top 15. Based off what? Beating the overrated Duran? At 154 even. How many ATG fighters has Floyd Mayweather beaten? Bob Foster lost to every ATG he ever faced. How many great fighters did Joe Louis beat?

By the way his name is Ezzard Charles...

you keep running back to the ray leonard victory like that somehow legitimizes duran and it doesnt while a good victory he would of needed to defeat ray in the rematch decisively but he quit

so his career takes a knoock and all the fighters you listed never quit when the going got tough.

[LacedUp]

dismiss it like you do all of durans rematches and losses, you do realize im aware you have an excuse for all of duran's losses whether in his prime (dejesus, leonard,) or out of his prime, im well aware of the duran cuckoos and your reverse logic lamo

I don't dismiss them at all - I'm just saying that because he lost a rematch to Leonard, an ATG, it doesn't automatically cancel out his first win over him. That idea is twisted. Especially if you know what shenigans Duran was up to after his first win against Leonard.

You place too much focus on one loss as they do nowadays. in truth, it was never that important back then. He did the right thing and rematched him and won.

[LacedUp]

you keep running back to the ray leonard victory like that somehow legitimizes duran and it doesnt while a good victory he would of needed to defeat ray in the rematch decisively but he quit

so his career takes a knoock and all the fighters you listed never quit when the going got tough.

Why the hell would he need to beat Leonard twice to actually beat him?

[Brandish]

Brandish did you know that white and latino fighters exist? Really they do. Look on youtube.

and what does that have to do with me? you want me to add a latino fighter just because your latino.

i tell you what you lazy ass make up your own list dont criticize mine if you dont have one, kinda lame dont you think.

[Brandish]

I get the feeling you have just taken a bunch of fighters, mixed in your two favs (roy and floyd) and hatched them all together. Put roy and floyd high, but not high enough to be called out on your fanboyism.

Yet, your list is dumb.

i consider you to be slightly ******ed so im not offended when you call me dumb, i mean you are ******ed lmao

[LacedUp]

i consider you to be slightly ******ed so im not offended when you call me dumb, i mean you are ******ed lmao

[Brandish]

I don't dismiss them at all - I'm just saying that because he lost a rematch to Leonard, an ATG, it doesn't automatically cancel out his first win over him. That idea is twisted. Especially if you know what shenigans Duran was up to after his first win against Leonard.

You place too much focus on one loss as they do nowadays. in truth, it was never that important back then. He did the right thing and rematched him and won.

i told you before that there are duran cuckoos he think that beating ray the first time was all duran needed to do become a top ten atg, thats the crazy ****** stuff im talking about.

beatng ray the first time was cool for duran but he lost both times in the rematches, he lost to hearns at 154, hagler at 160, benitez and leonard at 147 that is not dominance nor does it show greatness.

duran is in my top 30-40 because of his total career which was good just not top ten atg type career,

[Brandish]

Why the hell would he need to beat Leonard twice to actually beat him?

because the first fight was close and a rematch is in order to see if this guy duran is for real or did he get lucky?

well he got lucky because he never beat ray again or any other atg again after that victory, so no you dont get ranked top ten atg losing against all fo the other greats of your era.

[LacedUp]

i told you before that there are duran cuckoos he think that beating ray the first time was all duran needed to do become a top ten atg, thats the crazy ****** stuff im talking about.

beatng ray the first time was cool for duran but he lost both times in the rematches, he lost to hearns at 154, hagler at 160, benitez and leonard at 147 that is not dominance nor does it show greatness.

duran is in my top 30-40 because of his total career which was good just not top ten atg type career,

Beating Ray the first time on top of an ATG LW career is enough for me to say he's an ATG. You also seem to forget that Duran started his career lower than lightweight and fought the best after the best in each division. He came up short when he was way past his prime yes, but he gave it a good go. He also beat Iran Barkley, which was a pretty damn good win at MW.

I still can't see how you can deny this man his place in the top 20, borderline top 10.

[revs1227]

he took leanords 0 and his heart /thread