Vitali Klitschko has won 215 rds.......

[PainfromUkraine]

1.when did i say they were better than lewis? oh never. ok then. they were able to ko lewis and the biggest ko artist in boxing history wasn't able to do it. he wasn't able to ko byrd either. he was only able to ko the stiff blobs that were put in front of him and not the good fighters. get the picture?

2.career defining win over a completely shot tyson? do you know sh-it about boxing?

3.yes fat. he looked like he was storing up food in his love handles for hibernation during the winter.

1. Whatever you say...

2. Standout win I should say, Tyson is the biggest name on his resume - and he wasn't shot? I think you gotta ask yourself the question about knowing boxing, jesus...so a guy who's prime was a decade behind him, coming off 2 straight losses to Holyfield and some wins and a NC v bums worse than Vitali has fought, that's not shot? OK. Danny ****ing Williams k.o'd Tyson faster than Lewis, so Williams is an ATG cos he has that win?

3. Whatever you say again, I'm really beginning to see your expert boxing knowledge...just stick to trolling

[LacedUp]

That's where you're wrong.... it's the same heavyweight division that's been in existence since the 1800's... rules are the same... only the fighters differ in each era. Klitschko has fought in the first division for his entire career & has fought in nearly 20 title sanctioned fights of the 4 major sanctioning bodies that exist as of today.

How can you fight in the first division for 15 years, yet only have 5-6 current top 10 wins on your resume?

[LacedUp]

1. Whatever you say...

2. Standout win I should say, Tyson is the biggest name on his resume - and he wasn't shot? I think you gotta ask yourself the question about knowing boxing, jesus...so a guy who's prime was a decade behind him, coming off 2 straight losses to Holyfield and some wins and a NC v bums worse than Vitali has fought, that's not shot? OK. Danny ****ing Williams k.o'd Tyson faster than Lewis, so Williams is an ATG cos he has that win?

3. Whatever you say again, I'm really beginning to see your expert boxing knowledge...just stick to trolling

lol. you're not seriously trying to put down Lewis' resume in favour of a Klitschko?

Tyson is most definitely not Lewis' standout win. It only is to fans like yourself who came late in the sport (probably the last three years) and the only name you recognize on his resume are Tyson and Holyfield because you don't know any of the other guys.

[LacedUp]

he failed to stop both but

That's all I wanted to know.

[soul_survivor]

Look, no one is saying that Vitali is the GOAT but his stats are truly impressive, however, his level of competition is pretty low, worse in many cases than the mid to lat 80s which was previously the worst moment in HW history.

Vitali is probably a top 15 hw

[LacedUp]

Look, no one is saying that Vitali is the GOAT but his stats are truly impressive, however, his level of competition is pretty low, worse in many cases than the mid to lat 80s which was previously the worst moment in HW history.

Vitali is probably a top 15 hw

Isn't that exactly what he's trying to say?

Deontay Wilder's stats are also impressive. If he picks up a belt is he top 15 of all times as well?

[New England]

sorry, i wasn't aware that a scorecard discrepancy would negate the fact that he lost to the two best fighters he fought.


lewis tore his face up, and byrd went ham on that shoulder.



vitali fans are always changing the rules to make their guy look better. it's an odd look

[soul_survivor]

sorry, i wasn't aware that a scorecard discrepancy would negate the fact that he lost to the two best fighters he fought.


lewis tore his face up, and byrd went ham on that shoulder.



vitali fans are always changing the rules to make their guy look better. it's an odd look

I hate to jump into this one again but Vitali was winning the fight, Lewis was gassing and breathing damn heavily, if not for the cut and the stoppage, Vitali probably gets a mid round stoppage win.

[PainfromUkraine]

lol. you're not seriously trying to put down Lewis' resume in favour of a Klitschko?

Tyson is most definitely not Lewis' standout win. It only is to fans like yourself who came late in the sport (probably the last three years) and the only name you recognize on his resume are Tyson and Holyfield because you don't know any of the other guys.

Nope, not even saying anything about resume, Lewis has an excellent one, just responding to the other guy saying that Tyson wasn't shot.

Lol, attacking my boxing knowledge with assumptions because I'm telling you the fact (which you know) that majority of observers will say?

Lol again, let's say he didnt have those wins against Holyfield and Tyson, how would people judge his resume? Not as great, that's for sure. And, the 'facts' are - Holyfield was 37 (the age people say is 'old and past it' when referring to Lennox v Vitali, basically at the end of his real career as after that point he didn't really get a notable win again (I don't count John Ruiz). And Tyson, as I already said, was shot compared to his prime. Another fact is, there are more casual fans and observers who will only think of the names Tyson and Holyfield when thinking of Lennox's resume as the standout wins - if you asked someone on the street that would be names given, that's his legacy.

So what are you trying to say, if you take away those two names, Lennox's resume is still really an ATG one? Morrison, Tucker, Bruno etc...good names but without those ATG wins it's not on the same level. And TBH, it's not even my personal opinion about Tyson being his standout win, Lennox would probably say it as well as the random person on the street or sports broadcasters, and if I recall he has said it in interviews because that was a big part of his motivation, to get that win over Tyson. To quote a commentator when Lennox KO'd Tyson "Lewis has sealed his place in history forever!"

[New England]

I hate to jump into this one again but Vitali was winning the fight, Lewis was gassing and breathing damn heavily, if not for the cut and the stoppage, Vitali probably gets a mid round stoppage win.

if only lewis wasn't allowed to punch. vitali would have won.