Vitali Klitschko has won 215 rds.......
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did the 4 major sanctioning bodies exist until the 1980's? nope. how many legit fights has vitali fought in for the actual heavyweight title? 3 and he went 2-1. yea he is so great! no one in boxing history can match that my friends!That's where you're wrong.... it's the same heavyweight division that's been in existence since the 1800's... rules are the same... only the fighters differ in each era. Klitschko has fought in the first division for his entire career & has fought in nearly 20 title sanctioned fights of the 4 major sanctioning bodies that exist as of today.Comment
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pretty sure? how can wilder lose rounds against bums? he's not vitali klitschko here. unless you knock him down he's going to punish you. you can't outbox him. it's simply impossible. it's simply a fact.Comment
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How many records can one have for it to be taken seriously... TWO or three.. ok aberration but come on... these are 20.. at worst you could say he's the most dominant tomatoe can thrasher in the history of boxing.. to show you how full of shet the haters are.. they won't even fess up to that when his boxing performances CLEARLY illustrate that NO other boxing champion in history has ever dominated in such thorough fashion.Comment
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well vitali is the guy with the best ko percentage in heavyweight boxing history and he can't ko a guy that mccall and rahman ko'd? actually this lewis was much older and fatter than the lewis they ko'd and he still couldn't do it. hmmmm ok..........what?
I'm lost as to what you are talking about - which bum? Where and when did I say wins are more impressive? To be frank with you, no point even debating with you, you are a proven hater - I am a fan of Vitali yet I'm making balanced, general points, and not being biased - i'm clearly stating everyone has a right to a subjective opinion, I havn't even particularly included mine.
It is a FACT yes that Vitali officially LOST those fights - am I denying that? Should he be expected to KO an ATG in Lennox Lewis? Seems Vitali's haters want him to be some god, otherwise nothing he does is good enough. Vitali lost the fight, but showed he could trouble and beat the best. His short performance (in the chance he was given) proved he had the necessary skills. Byrd - a slippery guy who was a fairly bad matchup for Vitali but was dominated on the scorecards till a career threatening injury - had he maybe continued and tried to KO Byrd but permenantly retired after that - how would he be seen? An unknown...Comment
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You & jabless seem to think that Vitali's title fights were mostly due to the WBO.... he's fought for the WBC championship more than a dozen times .. onlynon title WBC fight since the Lewis fight was Kirk Johnson eliminator.. that's a dozen fights & all in the last 10 yrs of his career.. at least get your facts straight.Comment
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He lost to that dude on Showtime.. forgot his name.. also lost a rd or two in his last fight.. no way he's above 90% EVEN with the bums fought.Comment
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So because McCall and Rahman got lucky KO's they are better than Lennox, or should be seen as ATG's because they beat Lennox once before getting dominated completely in rematches? Ok Lewis was older, and fairly inactive - I DONT DISPUTE THESE FACTS, yet he was still coming off his career defining win v a shot Tyson, and at 37 was at barely past peak for most heavyweights. Fat? He was a few pounds off his usual fighting weights, and if anything that increased bulk actually probably kept him on his feet. Sure, it will have caused some detrimental effect in terms of stamina but in terms of strength and power it may have actually helped - if he had been able to bully Vitali physically and stopped him convincingly people would be saying that it was a clever ploy for fighting a bigger man.Comment
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I'm pretty sure.. I can come up with at least two fighters for each of them that Vitali Ko'ed & they couldn't.. off the top of my head.. McCall COULDN'T ko Gomez.Comment
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does wbc equal lineal? no. get your facts straight. he had 3 lineal fights(the equivalent to being the real champ throughout boxing history) and he went 2-1. having just the wbc doesn't mean squat when there are 4 total belts. do you want to compare how many lineal fights a guy like louis, ali, holmes, tyson, etc...had compared to vitali? even michael spinks had 5 and went 4-1. he also beat an all time great. michael spinks just as a heavyweight is clearly much greater than vitali klitschko.You & jabless seem to think that Vitali's title fights were mostly due to the WBO.... he's fought for the WBC championship more than a dozen times .. onlynon title WBC fight since the Lewis fight was Kirk Johnson eliminator.. that's a dozen fights & all in the last 10 yrs of his career.. at least get your facts straight.Last edited by daggum; 01-24-2014, 09:06 PM.Comment
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