Vitali Klitschko has won 215 rds.......

[LacedUp]

and you for some reason think a ko over an unranked fat bum is more impressive then beating an elite fighter, especially if its by decision. oh the horror....because we know how many elite fighters vitali ko'd..........lets see 2 chances....2 fails! lets see 2 fights....2 losses! you have been fire extinguished!

Byrd wasn't even elite by any stretch. He was just a good fighter. Which pretty much tells everything about the rest of the comp he's been facing.

[KBRO]

Haha. Jab would tear this thread to pieces

Only losing 20 rounds. Wupti do. Is Sven Ottke now the best SMW of all times as well? Anyone who knows about boxing history will tell you that quality is paramount to greatness.

Vitali doesn't have one great win on his resume.

Read the 20 plus boxing records & tell me if Sven has even 2.... & as for Jabless... he knows where I'm @.

[daggum]

I don't think anybody in their right mind would call what he won off hide a 'belt'

herbie hide, ed malone, obed sullivan, gets ko'd by unranked pillow punching light heavyweight chris byrd...some people would call this pathetic...others would say this was the start of greatness...its all how you analyze the facts....

[KBRO]

These stats only apply until Deontay Wilder gets a title

And the new greatest heavyweight of all times... Deontay!

Wilder has ONLY 2 heavyweight BOXING records.. ok 3

1) 30 ko's in a row to start a career. (Broke Vitali's 27 straight but he ain't got no TITLE)
2) 30 KO'S TO START a career NEVER allowing a fighter to go past 4 rds.

3) Highest CAREER KO% in heavyweight history 100%

He has NOT won 91 % of the rds he's fought & has been officially knocked down twice already

[daggum]

Byrd wasn't even elite by any stretch. He was just a good fighter. Which pretty much tells everything about the rest of the comp he's been facing.

thats true but i mean those were the 2 best guys he faced by far. couldn't ko them, couldn't knock them down, couldn't even finish the fight. pressure does strange things to a man. when vitali couldn't get the easy ko he exploded like a fire extinguisher.

[PainfromUkraine]

facts are facts.... jesus what has the world come to.

Facts are like bikini's my friend. It gives you a good idea about what's going on, but it hides all the good stuff.

Creative analogy... but as I say, facts are facts, it's just a record of something that has officially happened in history, you can argue one way or another - but what makes one person or group's opinions more valid than another? Because someone doesn't like Vitali for whatever reason they can discredit all his factual accomplishments by putting their opinion about his opposition as being terrible? Clearly, his quality of opposition was generally not that good, which detriments the real impact of his statistical accomplishments. However, this through no fault of his, there was simply not the opponents available to him. However, it's almost guaranteed that there will not be another champ that will consistently achieve what Vitali achieved by the end of his career statistically, so it's wrong to disrespect or discredit these, although the real impact can for sure be subjectively debated...

[daggum]

Wilder has ONLY 2 heavyweight BOXING records.. ok 3

1) 30 ko's in a row to start a career. (Broke Vitali's 27 straight but he ain't got no TITLE)
2) 30 KO'S TO START a career NEVER allowing a fighter to go past 4 rds.

3) Highest CAREER KO% in heavyweight history 100%

He has NOT won 91 % of the rds he's fought & has been officially knocked down twice already

he's fought 54 rounds and only lost the 2 that he got knocked down in. so he's won more than 91 percent. vitali loses. new champ of domination. his name is deontay wilder.

[KBRO]

of the heavyweight second division...

That's where you're wrong.... it's the same heavyweight division that's been in existence since the 1800's... rules are the same... only the fighters differ in each era. Klitschko has fought in the first division for his entire career & has fought in nearly 20 title sanctioned fights of the 4 major sanctioning bodies that exist as of today.

[PainfromUkraine]

and you for some reason think a ko over an unranked fat bum is more impressive then beating an elite fighter, especially if its by decision. oh the horror....because we know how many elite fighters vitali ko'd..........lets see 2 chances....2 fails! lets see 2 fights....2 losses! you have been fire extinguished!

...what? I'm lost as to what you are talking about - which bum? Where and when did I say wins are more impressive? To be frank with you, no point even debating with you, you are a proven hater - I am a fan of Vitali yet I'm making balanced, general points, and not being biased - i'm clearly stating everyone has a right to a subjective opinion, I havn't even particularly included mine.

It is a FACT yes that Vitali officially LOST those fights - am I denying that? Should he be expected to KO an ATG in Lennox Lewis? Seems Vitali's haters want him to be some god, otherwise nothing he does is good enough. Vitali lost the fight, but showed he could trouble and beat the best. His short performance (in the chance he was given) proved he had the necessary skills. Byrd - a slippery guy who was a fairly bad matchup for Vitali but was dominated on the scorecards till a career threatening injury - had he maybe continued and tried to KO Byrd but permenantly retired after that - how would he be seen? An unknown...

[cupocity303]

Here's all his boxing records for ALL who think this is just trolling nonsense. I'll list his heavyweight records separately.. first i'll give you his records that stand for ANY of the weight classes.

1)Highest Scorecard RATIO in the history of boxing = 91% plus rds won

2)ONLY boxing champion never to have lost 3 rds in a fight on official judges scorecards

3)Only boxing champion NEVER to be outboxed.

4)Only boxing champion NEVER to be outslugged.

5)Only boxing champion NEVER to be outjabbed.

6) HIGHEST BER (BOXER EFFICIENCY RATING) in the history of boxing.

7)Only boxing champion never to trail on the scorecards AFTER the second rd.

8) Only fighter in boxing history that is a member of the 90/90 club (Scorecard & Stoppage Percentages)

9)Only boxer in history to have his lone two defeats be the subject of complete controversy & due to cut & injury stoppages ONLY while winning a cumulative 12 of the 15 rds he fought on all judges scorecards.

10) ONLY boxer to win back his title after nearly 4 yrs of retirement without a tuneup going straight to a title match.. in other words there's no boxer who's ever fought consecutive title bouts nearly 4 yrs apart let alone come out victorious.

Heavyweight records

11) ONLY heavyweight champion to win a title while NEVER going the distance.

12) ONLY heavyweight champion to start his career with 27 consecutive stoppages

13) ONLY ranked heavyweight to have been taken the distance the least in his career ( only 8.5% of the time)
14) Highest % of wins coming via stoppage of any heavyweight champion.. 91%

15) Highest career KO% of any heavyweight champion if the Briggs fight would have rightfully been stopped.... 89.4%

16) ONLY HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION never to have fought the same opponent twice.

17) Only kickboxing champion to become heavyweight champion.

18) Highest skilled fighter standing 6 ft 8 or above in the history of boxing.

19) Fictional Head to Head rankings would have him ranked #1 based on all of the above as he has size advantages over 99% of the boxers who've ever fought.

20) Highest discrepancy of landed punches on his opponents vs landed punches on him in heavyweight history.

All this while NEVER tasting canvas... only heavyweight champion not to with as many title fights & ONLY alltime heavyweight great in the top 20 not to do so if I'm not mistaken.

I like this. Keep it up kid.