Remember when Ward didn't want to fight bute and said hes going to 175?

[daggum]

Talk about an overstatement..

not really. they were both close with terrible scorecards for the home fighter. calzaghe did nothing but hold the entire fight and so if calzaghe fans were consistent they would score it for bika since thats the only reason hopkins lost to calzaghe. ward-bika just ****** but bika won 4-5 rounds. lee lost at least 6 rounds to a guy who lost to a 14-13 fighter. where was the great boxing?

[daggum]

Nah Lee is not better then Johnson..The other two,are nobody's imo..Not that impressed by them guy..Anyway..This is all meaningless discussion tbh,Ward did not fight Bute..He did not have to fight Bute either cause dude did nothing,and still today does not hold a win of any note..

how is lee better than andrade? andrade ko'd stiegletz and should have a ko win against bute. lee has done nothing even close to that. he barely beats guys like craig mcewan. andy lee the great boxer wasn't even able to outbox super plodder bum chavez jr.

[Rome-By-Ko]

You know your argument is weak when you answer a question with a question. Rome-by-ko embarrassing himself on yet another topic. 2014 and you still haven't got a clue.

Argument about what exactly??What we have here are opinions that will never be brought to light if we were correct or not..Neither of these fighters will become anything more then what they are now..That's gate keepers and Journeymen..2014 and Dirk still my number 1 fan..

Best hoe in my stable...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Argument about what exactly??What we have here are opinions that will never be brought to light if we were correct or not..Neither of these fighters will become anything more then what they are now..That's gate keepers and Journeymen..2014 and Dirk still my number 1 fan..

Best hoe in my stable...

Sakio Bika is WBC Champion

Yeah hide behind the "opinions" card. It's easy to say that a bum like Andy Lee is better than a proven fighter because it's an "opinion".

[Rome-By-Ko]

how is lee better than andrade? andrade ko'd stiegletz and should have a ko win against bute. lee has done nothing even close to that. he barely beats guys like craig mcewan. andy lee the great boxer wasn't even able to outbox super plodder bum chavez jr.

The same bum that dropped Martinez and had him badly hurt..That bum??

[Rome-By-Ko]

Sakio Bika is WBC Champion

LMAO,and who did he beat for that belt??Was dude even ranked in the top ten??

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The same bum that dropped Martinez and had him badly hurt..That bum??

The same bum that lost 11 and a half rounds prior to that.

[IronDanHamza]

Andy Lee is really not very good at all.

He's a level below the British Middleweights like Macklin and Barker and they aren't that good either.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

LMAO,and who did he beat for that belt??Was dude even ranked in the top ten??

Where was Vera ranked when he KO'd Lee?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Sakio Bika is WBC Champion

Yeah hide behind the "opinions" card. It's easy to say that a bum like Andy Lee is better than a proven fighter because it's an "opinion".

Are Berto had a Championship belt..Did you ever really believe he was better then a fighter like Maidana??

Like Bika,Berto beat absolutely nobody for that belt..