Remember when Ward didn't want to fight bute and said hes going to 175?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Are Berto had a Championship belt..Did you ever really believe he was better then a fighter like Maidana??

Like Bika,Berto beat absolutely nobody for that belt..

Bika beats nobodies and Lee gets stopped by them

[Rome-By-Ko]

Andy Lee is really not very good at all.

He's a level below the British Middleweights like Macklin and Barker and they aren't that good either.

Bika is not that good either..It's really my only point..I think Lee is better then bika tho..

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bika is not that good either..It's really my only point..I think Lee is better then bika tho..

Bika's losses are more impressive than Lee's entire resume of wins. Periban is better than anyone on Lee's resume. Anthony Dirrell is better. What reason is Lee better than Bika exactly?

[-Kev-]

are you seriously pretending that grachev-rodriguez was some sort of super fight to establish the #1 challenger to ward? bute, kovalev, and stevenson have much better resumes than both guys. who cares if they beat grachev? bute already beat him and no one cared. grachev was also drained against rodriguez. he fights at 175 and the fight was at 171. why didn't ward say "rodriguez has to prove himself and beat froch before i fight him?" answer because rodriguez sucks! 2 million dollars to fight a bum shut ward's mouth pretty quickly.

I was nervous for Rodriguez in that fight, that was a good fight on paper. Grachev was on some semi tear of derailing careers. Took a couple of 0's from Sillakh and Erdei and almost put Bute on the sidelines. Depending on who you talk to, some had Bute-Grachev a draw, others had a win for Grachev. It was not a robbery, I thought Bute won but it was close. Rod-Grachev was not a super fight, but it was definitely underrated and I was nervous for E-Rod. Man the way he destroyed Grachev was far, far from what I was expecting. I expected a 10 round, tough SD win for either fighter.

[IronDanHamza]

Bika is not that good either..It's really my only point..I think Lee is better then bika tho..

Yeah but he's much better than Andy Lee.

Bika gives top fighters reasonably difficult times and has some decent wins.

Lee has zero good wins, stopped by Chavez in 6 and an embarrassing loss to Vera.

Aswell as he's just poor, frankly.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Bika's losses are more impressive than Lee's entire resume of wins. Periban is better than anyone on Lee's resume. Anthony Dirrell is better. What reason is Lee better than Bika exactly?

I like what Lee brings to the table better then I like what Bika brings..They both are middle of the ranking kinda fighters..I like Lee style better then Bika..The only thing to pull these guy's apart is Bika was handed a belt,Lee was not..

[-Kev-]

Bika's losses are more impressive than Lee's entire resume of wins. Periban is better than anyone on Lee's resume. Anthony Dirrell is better. What reason is Lee better than Bika exactly?

Bika is better than Lee but I disagree on Periban being better than any one on Lee's resume. I think Brian Vera is an underrated journeyman with some real good upsets on his resume, like Mora 2x, Lee, Dzinzuruk, and the de****able robbery against Chavez Jr.

[daggum]

I was nervous for Rodriguez in that fight, that was a good fight on paper. Grachev was on some semi tear of derailing careers. Took a couple of 0's from Sillakh and Erdei and almost put Bute on the sidelines. Depending on who you talk to, some had Bute-Grachev a draw, others had a win for Grachev. It was not a robbery, I thought Bute won but it was close. Rod-Grachev was not a super fight, but it was definitely underrated and I was nervous for E-Rod. Man the way he destroyed Grachev was far, far from what I was expecting. I expected a 10 round, tough SD win for either fighter.

yeah grachev was on a good run but at 175, not 171 where the fight took place. also i dont think he was prepared for the clubbing punches that hit him behind the head over and over. rodriguez sucks. don't let 1 fight fool you. that's what floyd fans do. they only look at a fighters last fight. ortiz is a beast he destroyed berto! mosley is a beast he destroyed margarito! if you look at rodriguez's career you could see he sucks. debatable decisions against aaron pryor jr and will roskinky, barely beat ezequial maderna whoever that is. just beause you win one fight doesn't mean you become a better fighter. maybe it was just luck, maybe it was a good style match up. i'll take the overwhelming evidence that is his career over 1 fight where he looked good.

[IronDanHamza]

I like what Lee brings to the table better then I like what Bika brings..They both are middle of the ranking kinda fighters..I like Lee style better then Bika..The only thing to pull these guy's apart is Bika was handed a belt,Lee was not..

Lee's not a middle of the rankings kind of guy he's an unranked kind of guy.

Bika's been a top 5-10 guy consistently for years.

Middle of the rankings guys don't get stopped in 6 by Chavez and stopped by Vera.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Yeah but he's much better than Andy Lee.

Bika gives top fighters reasonably difficult times and has some decent wins.

Lee has zero good wins, stopped by Chavez in 6 and an embarrassing loss to Vera.

Aswell as he's just poor, frankly.

Did he not right the Vera wrong??Jeez talk about holding something against a fighter..