Remember when Ward didn't want to fight bute and said hes going to 175?

[daggum]

I like what Lee brings to the table better then I like what Bika brings..They both are middle of the ranking kinda fighters..I like Lee style better then Bika..The only thing to pull these guy's apart is Bika was handed a belt,Lee was not..

what does lee bring to the table? zero head movement, glass jaw, and a stiff robot style? why is that good? he couldn't outbox craig mcewan who lost on prizefighter. why is lee fighting all these washed up guys if he's so good? bika is at least fighting up and comers like periban and dirrell every fight. he's already tried to beat the best and came up a bit short. lee didn't even fight the best and was humiliated.

[IronDanHamza]

Did he not right the Vera wrong??Jeez talk about holding something against a fighter..

Getting stopped by both Chavez and Vera in 7 tells me you're not a middle of the rankings guy and you're pretty damn poor.

He beat him in the rematch but the fact he needed one tells me all I need to know. Not like the guy is green or passed it, he's in his prime.

Like I said the guys just poor and much worse than Bika.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I like what Lee brings to the table better then I like what Bika brings..They both are middle of the ranking kinda fighters..I like Lee style better then Bika..The only thing to pull these guy's apart is Bika was handed a belt,Lee was not..

Well no Bika gives elite fighters difficult fights. Lee gets easy knocked out against guys like Chavez Jr and Vera who are well below elite. They are a different class of fighter.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Fair enough to everyone in this thread about freakin Andy Lee already..I really can't believe this many pages were dedicated to a convo about Lee and Bika..LMAO..Yikes..

[IronDanHamza]

Fair enough to everyone in this thread about freakin Andy Lee already..I really can't believe this many pages were dedicated to a convo about Lee and Bika..LMAO..Yikes..

That's the comparison been brought up and refuted both ways so it's likely to go a few pages.

Fact is though Bika's much better than Lee.

[kej718]

He did not duck Bute
he told him he would have to beat a top fighter at 168 before getting a shot at him.
Bute could have been involved in the super six but sat on the sidelines waiting for the winner. When he finally faced Froch you saw what happened had he won that Ward would have been the next obvious fight but he lost.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He did not duck Bute
he told him he would have to beat a top fighter at 168 before getting a shot at him.
Bute could have been involved in the super six but sat on the sidelines waiting for the winner. When he finally faced Froch you saw what happened had he won that Ward would have been the next obvious fight but he lost.

Ward-Bute was the first obvious fight after the Super Six.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I was trying to figure out where this Ward hate was coming from because no one really believes that he ducked Bute. Then that mention made it clear; butthurt Froch loyalists who can't get over the face that Andre beat him.

I don't know why guys on this site have to choose sides like children. If you can't appreciate Ward's expectations talents then what are you doing even watching the sport??

I don't care if Froch lost to Ward in the final. Styles make fights.
I appreciate anyone's skills BUT I don't appreciate it when they are too risk adverse to use em. That is why he doesn't deserve that #2 P4P slot at this moment, he hasn't done much and they're are other deserving people that have put in more work for it.

The answer is part of your post.

Ward is very gifted, very intelligent, etc... But he actually doesn't want to fight anymore!
The best part of Ward's career was in the Super Six -- when he was forced to fight a list of opponents...

Even then in the Super Six, he didn't want to leave home, he didn't want to fight Dirrell(who Froch beat, except the fans of running), he fought people coming off losses/leftovers.

[MDPopescu]

I don't care if Froch lost to Ward in the final. Styles make fights.
I appreciate anyone's skills BUT I don't appreciate it when they are too risk adverse to use em. That is why he doesn't deserve that #2 P4P slot at this moment, he hasn't done much and they're are other deserving people that have put in more work for it.




Even then in the Super Six, he didn't want to leave home, he didn't want to fight Dirrell(who Froch beat, except the fans of running), he fought people coming off losses/leftovers.

Malicious comments...
Meanwhile, Ward finds no point in fighting as long as Floyd is active.