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Just watched Roy Jones vs Bernard Hopkins I Roy shut him out!!!

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  • #31
    Bernard never wanted that Roy rematch. And he is smart for not taking it. When they finally had their rematch Hopkins was saying he knew he would be Roy because of one reason, that Roy didn’t have his legs anymore. The philly fans are just the most biased group of people when it comes to boxing.

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    • #32
      nah, it was like 8-4 RJ and by far his toughest fight besides Griffin before he finally lost to Tarver. I wouldve given Hopkins a great chance to beat him in the rematch. I wouldve given Hopkins a 33.3% chance

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      • #33
        Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
        Roy says himself during the Hopkins/Allen 3 fight that he was a Lightheavyweight on fight night and Hopkins didn't gain any weight. Said he knew that going into teh fight, which is why he was so confident. Because he was bigger than everyoen at 160.
        Are you forgetting Hopkins was a natural LHW? His pro debut was at LHW & he lost. Dropped down to MW, lived like a Shaolin monk & "ate like a model" according to James Toney so he wouldn't outgrow the division. Hopkins was naturally bigger than Roy who started his pro career at 154.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Knicksman20 View Post
          Are you forgetting Hopkins was a natural LHW? His pro debut was at LHW & he lost. Dropped down to MW, lived like a Shaolin monk & "ate like a model" according to James Toney so he wouldn't outgrow the division. Hopkins was naturally bigger than Roy who started his pro career at 154.
          Exactly and their 2003 fight would have been likely at a catchweight or super middle.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Knicksman20 View Post
            Are you forgetting Hopkins was a natural LHW? His pro debut was at LHW & he lost. Dropped down to MW, lived like a Shaolin monk & "ate like a model" according to James Toney so he wouldn't outgrow the division. Hopkins was naturally bigger than Roy who started his pro career at 154.
            Hopkins was fresh out of prison when he made his pro debut in 1988. He then took two years off to work on his craft and got connected with a real trainer.

            Of course JAMES TONEY said Hopkins ate like a model, anything less than 7 Whoppers with cheese from Burger King and large fries was considered going on a diet to Toney.

            Hopkins and Roy were both middleweights at the time. Also I think Bhops body frame is naturally leaner than Jones who went all the way up to heavyweight; I think Jones was always more muscular or able to carry more weight. But that meant nothing when they fought at 160 21 years ago!

            Anyways, topic at hand - Jones won CLEARLY, but it wasn't a shut out nor did he dominate. It was a competitive fight with Hopkins finding success late, especially with the overhand right. Looking back, this fight was largely uneventful. Both men fought cautiously neither taking too many chances, but Jones did more to win more rounds. This was a big learning experience for both fighter as neither were in their primes yet.
            Last edited by ИATAS; 01-14-2014, 04:48 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by intoccabile View Post
              He said it seperately. In fact, if you watch the Ray Allen fight and listen, he never mentioned the 1 hand bit at all. He just credits himself for being too big for bernard.
              Separately or not, he still said it. And as long as a fighter makes weight the day before it doesn't really matter. Bernard has had the size advantage by a lot more in a lot more fights.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                Hopkins was fresh out of prison when he made his pro debut in 1988. He then took two years off to work on his craft and got connected with a real trainer.

                Of course JAMES TONEY said Hopkins ate like a model, anything less than 7 Whoppers with cheese from Burger King and large fries was considered going on a diet to Toney.

                Hopkins and Roy were both middleweights at the time. Also I think Bhops body frame is naturally leaner than Jones who went all the way up to heavyweight; I think Jones was always more muscular or able to carry more weight. But that meant nothing when they fought at 160 21 years ago!

                Anyways, topic at hand - Jones won CLEARLY, but it wasn't a shut out nor did he dominate. It was a competitive fight with Hopkins finding success late, especially with the overhand right. Looking back, this fight was largely uneventful. Both men fought cautiously neither taking too many chances, but Jones did more to win more rounds. This was a big learning experience for both fighter as neither were in their primes yet.
                I didn't see the fight that way at all. Hopkins presented Roy with less problems than Marquez presented Floyd. After about round 5 Roy has no worry at all about hopkins and he starts backing Hopkins up and hopkins is reluctant to throw unless roy allowed himself to go to the ropes. Hop had absolutely nothing for Roy. Roy would of beaten him 10/10 times 10 rounds to 2
                Last edited by KiloTeague; 01-14-2014, 05:23 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KiloTeague View Post
                  I didn't see the fight that way at all. Hopkins presented Roy with less problems than Marquez presented Floyd. After about round 5 Roy has no worry at all about hopkins and he starts backing Hopkins up and hopkins is reluctant to throw unless roy allowed himself to go to the ropes. Hop had absolutely nothing for Roy. Roy would of beaten him 10/10 times 10 rounds to 2
                  Haha ok! Watch round 11 and see Hopkins going to work attacking and digging into the body, that continued in round 12. Round 10 Hopkins landed some nice over hand rights and Jones landing some of his own and edging out that round but it was very competitive. Marquez sure as hell didn't do any of that to Mayweather come on now.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                    Haha ok! Watch round 11 and see Hopkins going to work attacking and digging into the body, that continued in round 12. Round 10 Hopkins landed some nice over hand rights and Jones landing some of his own and edging out that round but it was very competitive. Marquez sure as hell didn't do any of that to Mayweather come on now.
                    The only time he hit Jones to the Body was when Jones was leaning on the ropes not moving. If you ever watched a Jones fight, thats the only time anyone ever hit him, and he was content with giving that up becomes you his abs were steal and he took that time to rest. Great Hop did what every fighter did when Roy laid on the ropes. On letterman's scorecard he was being blanked up to that point and Roy new he had the fight won already. Roy gave him that, lol thinking that Bernard took that from him. Besides that he landed one clean shot to Roys face the whole fight in the eigth. Bernard got owned bro. He couldn't do anything to roy that Roy didn't let happen. Look at the body language of both. By round 6 Bernard is hesitant and Roy is in his confident crouch. Marquez hit floyd in the face more than Bernard hit Roy. Roy always gives up body shots on the ropes, he doesn't mind them, its the face shots he doesn't like. Roys face was immaculate after the fight. Bernard had lumps after round 4-5.

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                    • #40
                      I literally just watched round 11 lol Hopkins was digging into the body in the center of the ring, consistently throughout the round watch it for yourself its on YouTube. Lol @ owned

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