Just watched Roy Jones vs Bernard Hopkins I Roy shut him out!!!

[PurePugilist216]

Who cares? Roy pretty much beat him with one hand. Hopkins ducked that rematch and it is what it is.

[Knicksman20]

Hopkins was fresh out of prison when he made his pro debut in 1988. He then took two years off to work on his craft and got connected with a real trainer.

Of course JAMES TONEY said Hopkins ate like a model, anything less than 7 Whoppers with cheese from Burger King and large fries was considered going on a diet to Toney.

Hopkins and Roy were both middleweights at the time. Also I think Bhops body frame is naturally leaner than Jones who went all the way up to heavyweight; I think Jones was always more muscular or able to carry more weight. But that meant nothing when they fought at 160 21 years ago!

Anyways, topic at hand - Jones won CLEARLY, but it wasn't a shut out nor did he dominate. It was a competitive fight with Hopkins finding success late, especially with the overhand right. Looking back, this fight was largely uneventful. Both men fought cautiously neither taking too many chances, but Jones did more to win more rounds. This was a big learning experience for both fighter as neither were in their primes yet.

I hear what you're saying but Hopkins still is/was the bigger man. 6-6'1 frame that melted his body down to make MW. Roy always had good muscular definition but don't confuse that with size. You saw what Hopkins looked like when he finally moved to LHW against Tarver right? A natural LHW which was his natural weight.

[ИATAS]

I hear what you're saying but Hopkins still is/was the bigger man. 6-6'1 frame that melted his body down to make MW. Roy always had good muscular definition but don't confuse that with size. You saw what Hopkins looked like when he finally moved to LHW against Tarver right? A natural LHW which was his natural weight.

Why would one not consider muscle with size? Mike Tyson was like 5'10.

6-6'1 is not a huge frame for MW that's the same size as Taylor and Pavlik for example. Pretty typical.

If Bernard "melted" down to 160 he wouldn't be able to successfully do it for 15 years or whatever it was. Hell, the man weighed as low as 156 a couple times and 157 numerous times. He stayed in shape all year round and lived a healthy lifestyle.

[Knicksman20]

Why would one not consider muscle with size? Mike Tyson was like 5'10.

6-6'1 is not a huge frame for MW that's the same size as Taylor and Pavlik for example. Pretty typical.

If Bernard "melted" down to 160 he wouldn't be able to successfully do it for 15 years or whatever it was. Hell, the man weighed as low as 156 a couple times and 157 numerous times. He stayed in shape all year round and lived a healthy lifestyle.

Roy wasn't a natural LHW. Bernard did have to meltdown to make MW. Hopkins lived like monk & was on a strict diet during his MW campaign. It's well documented how he lived. Why do you think he had to pace himself so much in his fights? Making MW wasn't that easy I imagine & as he got older it was even more difficult more than likely. That's why his stamina started suffering as you saw in the Taylor fights. Bernard was a natural LHW my man, that's a fact. He dropped down to 160 to maximize his physical gifts.

[KiloTeague]

I just watched Roy Jones vs Bernard Hopkins and I can't give Bernard a single round. I have the first round as a draw, but after that Roy controlled the fight and Bernard only landed one clean punch in the 8th round the entire fight. Whats your take?




Note: Harold letterman had it 10-0 going into the final 2 where I think he mercy gave Hop the last two rounds. I say no way, Roy won the last two as well. He beat hop in the fashion Floyd beat Conelo accept easier, but Bernard was 10x more game than conelo and much better.

Here ya go.

[ИATAS]

Roy wasn't a natural LHW. Bernard did have to meltdown to make MW. Hopkins lived like monk & was on a strict diet during his MW campaign. It's well documented how he lived. Why do you think he had to pace himself so much in his fights? Making MW wasn't that easy I imagine & as he got older it was even more difficult more than likely. That's why his stamina started suffering as you saw in the Taylor fights. Bernard was a natural LHW my man, that's a fact. He dropped down to 160 to maximize his physical gifts.

Actually Hopkins at MW had a high work rate, watch his fights against Glen Johnson and Echols as examples. It wasnt until he started reaching the age of 40 did his work rate drop, i.e getting old. And yea he was 40 years old when he fought Taylor.

As I stated Hopkins stayed in shape year round. He didn't have to cut weight. Meanwhile the vast majority of fighters have to cut weight, often times upwards of 20 pounds or more during training camp, yet Hopkins is criticized and labelled a natural LHW? lol. Again, the man fought at MW for like 15 years. That's called being a MW.

[KiloTeague]

I literally just watched round 11 lol Hopkins was digging into the body in the center of the ring, consistently throughout the round watch it for yourself its on YouTube. Lol @ owned

hahahaha. The last two minutes of round ten, Roy is hitting Bernard at will, and yes toying with him, making sport of him, giving the fans a show at Bernards expense. He's following Roy around like a lost puppy and getting tagged. That raps up 10 straight rounds of Roy doing Bernard and then you get hype and think Bernard figured him out in the 11th. Wow bro! Like I said, Bernard had absolutely nothing to worry Roy in this fight. Those body punches from Bernard were allowed to happen. You owned yourself.

[IronDanHamza]

Roy won the fight without question but it wasn't a shut out and it wasn't a domination. Roy-Toney is what you call a domination.

And as for Hopkins being a MW, he was obviously a MW he fought there for like over a decade.

He could have moved up to 168 but he'd have been smaller than a lot of fighters there at the time.

[KiloTeague]

I literally just watched round 11 lol Hopkins was digging into the body in the center of the ring, consistently throughout the round watch it for yourself its on YouTube. Lol @ owned

Got laugh at you again. In the entire 11th round he hit Roy with one body shot while they were in the center of the ring with 55 seconds to go in the round. Please enlighten me with all the many times he consistently was digging Roy's body in the center of the ring. Please show the time clock as your proof otherwise your just proving to be a very funny guy.

Owned? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha

[KiloTeague]

Roy won the fight without question but it wasn't a shut out and it wasn't a domination. Roy-Toney is what you call a domination.

And as for Hopkins being a MW, he was obviously a MW he fought there for like over a decade.

He could have moved up to 168 but he'd have been smaller than a lot of fighters there at the time.

I'm sorry, I know asking you to watch the fight again takes time, but I have watched the fight twice in the last two days and I cannot give Bernard a round. Yes he was there in Roys face all night, but he got outlander with more effective punches by Roy every Round, thus again, I cannot give him a single round. There is not one round where Bernard landed more, or more effective punches. Meanwhile Roy landed flush shots to Bernards head every round. Bernard landed one clean shot in round 8. It was a domination in that Bernard could not win a single round, although he was competitive, and he kept coming, but he kept eating shots without landing anything.