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  • twosweethooks
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    #71
    You would think with all the visceral hatred May Jr has for Arum and Pac that he would want to Knock Pac out and take all Arums money !!!!!!!!!

    What is Jr's Problem ?

    HE KNOWS !!!

    He knows he hasn't fought a prime Elite since his lower weight class days. One of them whupped him hmmmmmm yeah, Castillo 1, so Jr's resume sucks.

    He was WW way before Pac and wormed his way thru all the elites , they were either small, little bitty at the time, or OLD and washed up not able to pull the trigger. Even in his last fight, Canelo was not a PRIME ELITE hardened by time but the BEST OF THE BEST. Pac, Cotto , Margo were hardened PRIME ELITES and it will go down forever that JR ducked them

    so

    It makes sense that JR will pull out all stops to stop the Pac vs May fight.

    I won't believe it will happen until they get in the ring and somebody calls me up and says , ITS ON !!!!!

    Jr is , was and always will be a little ChickS### !!!!!!

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    • Evol
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Yes tjmm and shane both did-thats how the "must leave TR to get a fight" became a condition.

      I am comparing the requests from the a sides in each instance. I am then looking at the b sides actions/responses. I then apply both to the floyd/mnny fight.

      I did not say the situations were the same, I said the requests are. You are trying to argue since the situations are not excatly the same the requests are different. we disagree.

      Since the first negotitations fell through Manny/Bob have on 3 occasions made non TR fighters sign to TR as a condition of getting a fight with Manny.

      Floyd, seeing that fighters were willing to do this and knowing this is a smart way to protect your investment is asking Manny to do this.

      If you didn't care then its not a big deal now.
      show me where tim and shane sat down with bob and manny for a negotiation BEFORE getting signed onto top rank??? they were never in any type of negotiation prior to signing onto top rank. when tim signed onto top rank thats when the negotiation with pac started. pac and floyd were actually in a negotiation to get the fight signed. so u're telling me tim and his previous promoter reached out to bob and manny and they all sat down and negotiate and agreed on everything except for 1 thing and then years later bob offer tim to leave his promoter in order to get a fight with manny? u're telling me this happen??

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      • AgainstTheRopes
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        #73
        The lengths Pacquiao fans go to defend Arum, its like they dont want the fight to happen.

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        • Evol
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          #74
          floyd said ost was the only issue, now its leave arum.

          did manny ever told jmm, shane and tim that everything is all gravy then years later comes out and demanded them to leave their promoter first????

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #75
            Originally posted by Evol
            show me where tim and shane sat down with bob and manny for a negotiation BEFORE getting signed onto top rank??? they were never in any type of negotiation prior to signing onto top rank. when tim signed onto top rank thats when the negotiation with pac started. pac and floyd were actually in a negotiation to get the fight signed. so u're telling me tim and his previous promoter reached out to bob and manny and they all sat down and negotiate and agreed on everything except for 1 thing and then years later bob offer tim to leave his promoter in order to get a fight with manny? u're telling me this happen??
            could you answer the qestion in my last post?

            Originally posted by Evol
            floyd said ost was the only issue, now its leave arum.

            did manny ever told jmm, shane and tim that everything is all gravy then years later comes out and demanded them to leave their promoter first????
            did tim/shane/jmm ever refuse a fight with manny after agreeing to the conditions manny requested?

            please answer the question from my last post.

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            • Evol
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              #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              so as I posted because the situations are not exactly the same you are attempting to differentiate between manny/bob's asking them to sign with TR to get a Manny fight and floyd asking Manny to sign with TMT to get a floyd fight.

              Since Ive answered your questions please answer this-if manny and floyd both knock the same fighter out in the 3rd round-is one a 3rd round KO and the other not a 3rd round ko because one fight is a 10 round fight and the other a 12 round fight?
              now u admit that the situation is not exactly the same LOL!!! and that was my whole point!! as to ur question no idea wtf u are trying to say.

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              • Evol
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                #77
                what im saying is that jmm, shane and tim were never in any type of negotiation with manny like how manny was with floyd. so dont try to come at me with that oh manny demanded jmm, shane and tim to do the same thing floyd is asking.

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                • Respect Power
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                  #78
                  It's gonna be real interesting what happens when pac's contract is up.. Will PAC leave for one fight and will arum have him back if he does.. If I were PAC i'd probably do what Cotto does and be a free agent from fight to fight..

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Evol
                    now u admit that the situation is not exactly the same LOL!!! and that was my whole point!! as to ur question no idea wtf u are trying to say.
                    I already said the situations were different. that doesn't make the requests different. You're not that ******.

                    A 10 and 12 round fight are "different situations" but both fights are 3rd round ko's. Same thing here. whether the "situations" are different is irrelevant-the requests are not. they are the same thing.

                    that you would try to differentiate between the requests for signing to the a sides's promotional company because the negotiations weren't identical is utterly ridiculous and childish.

                    Come on evol, you embrassed yourself with this.

                    I guess in your mind Manny requesting rios take PED testing was different from floyd asking Manny to take them because Manny didn't call Rios any names beforehand or accuse him of PED use.
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-06-2014, 12:55 PM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Evol
                      what im saying is that jmm, shane and tim were never in any type of negotiation with manny like how manny was with floyd. so dont try to come at me with that oh manny demanded jmm, shane and tim to do the same thing floyd is asking.
                      do you honestly think this makes a difference?

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