Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Admits Mayweather Fight Unlikely Until 2015

[Hands of Stone]

3 weeks ago Manny signed a 1yr extension with Top Rank had he not signed the extension his contract with Arum would have expired on New Years Eve FACT!!!! If he wanted the Floyd fight he could have not signed the extension set the fight up for May and resigned with Arum the next day! Look it up!

So you want Manny to hold up his future because of the words of a flip flopper like Floyd. Manny's contract was never an issue from time when Junior brought his team to the table to negotiate so now all of a sudden, it is. So I guess Floyd shouldn't have signed that multi fight deal either right, and only do one fight or two fights and leverage that against HBO to get the Manny fight. Do you know what Manny's extension entail that all of a sudden you now have the expertise to say he shouldn't have signed and depend on ultra reliable Lil Floyd to make whatever that money he is guaranteed. So if Manny breaks his contract and lil Floyd tells him, I need to sample your wife first before we can negotiate, you will probably say he should agree and bend over to that to. You guys are missing the fact the Floyd is not that much greater than Manny and for that reason, he is not going to totally bend over and get ****.d by little Floyd on every negotiation points. In boxing, it is Floyd and Manny with everyone else a far, far, distant third. Why is that so hard to comprehend? Why is he so focused on what Manny is going to make rather than focus on the gazillion that he is going to make? Some please explain. Fact, Floyd is just putting up smokescreens at this point and if folks are not smart enough to see, I can only SMH.

[sapo13]

please show me where tim, shane and jmm had to break out of their contract just to go sign with top rank in order to get a fight with manny, please show me. And one more thing, was jmm, shane and tim ever in any negotiation with manny and top rank in the first place before they got signed to top rank like how manny and top rank was in negotiation with floyd and golden boy in 2009 then all of a sudden end of 2013 floyd says pac needs to leave arum first. how the phuck is this even the same as what u're trying to justify? LMAO!!!! please show me where jmm, shane, and tim had a negotiation with bob and top rank already before they got signed.

you really asking for proof on this?

the only way marquez could get the fight was by signing with top rank!! that was the deal!!

de la hoya even stated in an interview that they would step aside and let marquez fight pacquaio!!!

de la hoy said " we would to that for Juan"

you must be just trolling!!

The end result was that they did in fact leave golden boy to get the pacquaio fight!!! quit acting ******ed!!

[Bronx2245]

For those who don't know, Manny could have left TR in December 2013. Don't take my word for it, read here:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8497156/manny-pacquiao-signs-contract-extension-2014

[Twako]

its only different if you are a manny fan.

it's alright dunn, we all know you're always just parroting whatever excuse floyd puts out there and you dont think for yourself. as a floyd fan, you would never wonder or even start to, why floyd suddenly brought this latest excuse up now, and never in any previous negotiations. always something new eh, but you wouldn't notice now would you.

[The Big Dunn]

So you want Manny to hold up his future because of the words of a flip flopper like Floyd. Manny's contract was never an issue from time where Junior brought his team to the table to negotiate so now all of a sudden, now it is. So I guess Floyd shouldn't have signed that multi fight deal either right, and only do one fight or two fights and leverage that against HBO to get the Manny fight. So if Manny breaks his contract and lil Floyd tells him, I need to sample your wife first before we can negotiate, you will probably say he shouldn't have renewed his vows with his wife too. Fact, Floyd is just putting up smokescreens at this point and if folks are not smart enough to see, I can only SMH.

why make an extreme counter argument rather than simply debate what happened?

You are correct-floyd didn't ask manny to sign with TMT initially. But since then Manny refused 50/50, agreed to ost then refused the $40 mil no ppv offer, and in fights that occured since the first manny/floyd negotiation, manny/bob made shane, tim, and JMM all sign with TR as a condition of fighting manny to protect their investment.

SO now floyd is asking manny do the same thing.

[Twako]

For those who don't know, Manny could have left TR in December 2013. Don't take my word for it, read here:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...extension-2014

read the date of the article. they negotiated the extension back in october or even earlier. flipflopping floyd made his duck...err demand only last month.

[sapo13]

show me where tim and shane sat down with bob and manny for a negotiation BEFORE getting signed onto top rank??? they were never in any type of negotiation prior to signing onto top rank. when tim signed onto top rank thats when the negotiation with pac started. pac and floyd were actually in a negotiation to get the fight signed. so u're telling me tim and his previous promoter reached out to bob and manny and they all sat down and negotiate and agreed on everything except for 1 thing and then years later bob offer tim to leave his promoter in order to get a fight with manny? u're telling me this happen??

Ill show you a picture of juan marquez shane mosley and bob arum sitting down talking before they left golden boy negotiating.

If you show me a picture R.kelly peeing on that girl with a picture of R Kelly's mom Holding r Kelly's drivers license and birth certificate!!

and a picture of OJ. simpson killing his wife!! and also the location of jimmy Hoffa!!


everyone knew that Juan and mosley left Goldenboy to get th pacquaio fight!!! and when they left that's exactly what happened!!

quit acting stu pid!! or are you not acting!!!! TROLL!!!

[The Big Dunn]

it's alright dunn, we all know you're always just parroting whatever excuse floyd puts out there and you dont think for yourself. as a floyd fan, you would never wonder or even start to, why floyd suddenly brought this latest excuse up now, and never in any previous negotiations. always something new eh, but you wouldn't notice now would you.

If you read the thread I said he stole the idea from Bob/manny as a way to protect his investment and to flex his muscle.

So if I am correct you are saying the same thing evol did- because floyd didn't ask for it in 09 he can't ask for it now. Is that right?

Thats interesting logic.

[Evol]

you really asking for proof on this?

the only way marquez could get the fight was by signing with top rank!! that was the deal!!

de la hoya even stated in an interview that they would step aside and let marquez fight pacquaio!!!

de la hoy said " we would to that for Juan"

you must be just trolling!!

The end result was that they did in fact leave golden boy to get the pacquaio fight!!! quit acting ******ed!!

no, what im asking is manny and marquez didnt have a negotiation at first then agree to everything except for 1 thing. then after marquez agree to that and then manny switches and demanded another thing. this is what im talking about here with floyd/manny so u stop being ******ed. its not the same thing as what floyd is doing here with pac.

[Evol]

Ill show you a picture of juan marquez shane mosley and bob arum sitting down talking before they left golden boy negotiating.

If you show me a picture R.kelly peeing on that girl with a picture of R Kelly's mom Holding r Kelly's drivers license and birth certificate!!

and a picture of OJ. simpson killing his wife!! and also the location of jimmy Hoffa!!


everyone knew that Juan and mosley left Goldenboy to get th pacquaio fight!!! and when they left that's exactly what happened!!

quit acting stu pid!! or are you not acting!!!! TROLL!!!

show me where marquez and shane agree to all terms to fight manny and then bob pulls the u have to leave ur promoter first. i'll wait???? im not denying the fact that they had to sign to top rank im saying they were never in any negotiation at first and agree to all terms then bob tells them u need to leave ur promoter first. if this happens then shoot me the link to the whole negotiation.