Fantasy: Would a Welter Andre Ward do well VS Floyd?

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  • MurkaMan
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rights4Gays
    Cotto was a smaller man in height and reach. Cotto won rounds by boxing even if he ran the last rounds, he won them by boxing.
    Cotto is the same size as Mosley and Floyd and Pac are way smaller than them both.

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    • MurkaMan
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      #52
      Originally posted by SlickRickman
      You can EMPHASIZE words in big cap LETTERS all you like - it doesn't make your posts any less moronic or you any less of a blithering idiot.
      Your bitter because Im making a point. Thats the only reason you would say that mess lol

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      • MurkaMan
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        #53
        Originally posted by Rights4Gays
        Murka made some good points but to claim Floyd gave the blueprint of boxing Mosely was so funny
        He did. Pac wasnt going to fight him at all. Floyd is the first small guy to show how to beat him and its the only reason Pac fought him.

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        • Ham Porter
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          #54
          Originally posted by MurkaMan
          Your bitter because Im making a point. Thats the only reason you would say that mess lol


          A "mess" would best describe any post you make, or even your understanding of basic grammar. It's "you're", not "your", you absolute pleb.

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          • Los Zetas
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            #55
            Originally posted by MurkaMan
            Cotto is the same size as Mosley and Floyd and Pac are way smaller than them both.
            Same size means equal right?

            Well no, Cotto is slightly shorter and has a smaller reach. The reach being the bigger factor in boxing and in this case.


            This was your post. Where did SIZE come into it anyway?

            Originally posted by MurkaMan
            I dont care HOW long he was out of the ring. The last time he was in the ring before fighting Floyd, he was a killer. I disagree about Marg being made to order. He was supposed to win and got dominated. The reason he lost after Floyd is because people realized he could be outboxed. Floyd is the one who dominated him. And you didnt respond to my comment about how you said thats the reason he brought Sr back, when Sr was actually in that camp. You also didnt respond to my comment about how Floyd made Canelo, JMM, Ortiz look the same as Mosley. But none of them even fight like Mosley, and none of them faded. Mosley didnt fade either. He was breathing out of his mouth, but he was still trying. But Floyd countered everything, making him gun shy and walked him down just like the others.

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            • Los Zetas
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              #56
              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              He did. Pac wasnt going to fight him at all. Floyd is the first small guy to show how to beat him and its the only reason Pac fought him.
              The blue print to beat him was already there from Cotto. Cotto won enough rounds because he boxed Shane.

              Pac didn't use to same blue print for Pac anyway. Shane fought a totally different fight to the one he fought May and Cotto... particularly when he got dropped.

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              • MurkaMan
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                #57
                Originally posted by Rights4Gays
                Same size means equal right?

                Well no, Cotto is slightly shorter and has a smaller reach. The reach being the bigger factor in boxing and in this case.


                This was your post. Where did SIZE come into it anyway?
                Yea equal. I dont care about what boxrec and tail of the tape list their height and reach as, because to me, they are always incorrect. They also list Floyd as taller with longer arms than everyone he fights, and he always looks way shorter and smaller to me.

                I actually think Cotto may even be a little bigger than Mosley tbh. And size came into it when YOU said that Cotto was a fighter who beat Mosley who was smaller than him.

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                • MurkaMan
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rights4Gays
                  The blue print to beat him was already there from Cotto. Cotto won enough rounds because he boxed Shane.

                  Pac didn't use to same blue print for Pac anyway. Shane fought a totally different fight to the one he fought May and Cotto... particularly when he got dropped.
                  I dont care about what fight Shane fought. Thats a tangent. Im talking about Pac outboxing Shane the way Floyd did. You say the blueprint was there, but as I stated before, Pac wouldnt fight him until after Floyd did. They thought Pac would be too small, until Floyd showed that size wouldnt matter. In one of my coments you highlighted a portion to respond to. Please, no more tangents, and dont cherrypick and choose what you want to respond to. Do the whole think #Duckin&Dodgin
                  Last edited by MurkaMan; 01-02-2014, 01:32 AM.

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                    #59
                    I think he'd do pretty damn good and come closer to winning than anyone available to Floyd right now, that's for sure. Not sure if I'd pick him to win though.

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                    • MurkaMan
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El Angel
                      I think he'd do pretty damn good and come closer to winning than anyone available to Floyd right now, that's for sure. Not sure if I'd pick him to win though.
                      He's a good fighter, but his athleticism is terrible. He doesnt telegraph and he gets off first. But Floyd cant be blinded by feints. If you put your head low and throw the shot so he wont see, he will just wait till the punch gets close to landing, then move at the last minute. Ward is waay too slow for Floyd. Aaron Pryor or Pacman can give him the best fight I can think of.

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