Fantasy: Would a Welter Andre Ward do well VS Floyd?

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  • Los Zetas
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    #81
    Tried toreply to big post but looking at your bits and my reply is too hard. Generally I see your point that we are going in circles and end up typing to get our point across. I agree to disagree. We look at things differently which is fine.

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    • MurkaMan
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      #82
      Originally posted by Rights4Gays
      I'm out now. On my phone. I'll reply back later.

      I never said ward would beat Floy, iI feel he has the athletic ability and style / skill to do well.

      I don't see Khan or guys who set to punch like Canelo doing well. Ward is not flat footed and can throw e shots quick hence lack of ko
      This is all that matters right here. You now seeing that Ward would lose! Tnx.

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      • MurkaMan
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        #83
        Originally posted by Rights4Gays
        Still out but I can reply to Smaller posts
        Ok well to me Shane looks bigger.
        And Borec says shane is too
        I dont know why your acting like you forgot about what I said of boxrec. I'll ignore this post lol
        Last edited by MurkaMan; 01-02-2014, 06:20 PM.

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        • MurkaMan
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          #84
          Originally posted by Rights4Gays
          Floyd is not twice as accurate. Ward is at 38 connects and Floyd 42 from the compubox pic

          Floyd is no. 30 iit's 24 while ward 14.7

          Floyd has the better defence which is why his plus minus is so good

          His opponents connect is 18 per cent and wards 24



          The percentage are high but if you look at the shots landed in each round, it's very close. Floyd lands 17 a round and ward 18

          Boxing isn't judged on what misses but what lands. Well the emphasis is a punch landing anywaywhich wins you rounds.
          Yea but in my opinion, based on the facts he is twice as accurate and twice as defensively sound. Agree to disagree on this one.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Rights4Gays
            Tried toreply to big post but looking at your bits and my reply is too hard. Generally I see your point that we are going in circles and end up typing to get our point across. I agree to disagree. We look at things differently which is fine.
            Yea and ultimately you changed your mind about Ward beating Floyd. That was the main point. No beef, just opinions.

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              #86
              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              This is all that matters right here. You now seeing that Ward would lose! Tnx.
              Firstly I never said Ward would win, I said it would be a good match up. Also look at the title, it says would Ward do well, not win.

              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              I dont know why your acting like you forgot about what I said of boxrec. I'll ignore this post lol
              Boxrec has flaws but I simply can't see how you don't see Mosely is taller. I think if I recall they say he is taller by a few CM, and looking at the pic it seems the case to me.

              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              Yea but in my opinion, based on the facts he is twice as accurate and twice as defensively sound. Agree to disagree on this one.
              How can Floyd be twice as accurate when he hits at 42% and Ward at 38%.
              Same for defence. If he was twice the the punches landed would be at a staggering 76% and punches taken at 12%.

              Originally posted by MurkaMan
              Yea and ultimately you changed your mind about Ward beating Floyd. That was the main point. No beef, just opinions.
              Again where did I say Ward would win? I even replied to your first reply to me saying walked down by Floyd, no, out boxed yes. However I feel Ward in a fantasy fight if he was at 147 would give Floyd a great fight. He COULD win. However ultimately I would not ever bet against Floyd.
              Last edited by Los Zetas; 01-02-2014, 09:48 PM.

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              • MurkaMan
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                #87
                Originally posted by Rights4Gays
                Firstly I never said Ward would win, I said it would be a good match up. Also look at the title, it says would Ward do well, not win.



                Boxrec has flaws but I simply can't see how you don't see Mosely is taller. I think if I recall they say he is taller by a few CM, and looking at the pic it seems the case to me.



                How can Floyd be twice as accurate when he hits at 42% and Ward at 38%.
                Same for defence. If he was twice the the punches landed would be at a staggering 76% and punches taken at 12%.



                Again where did I say Ward would win? I even replied to your first reply to me saying walked down by Floyd, no, out boxed yes. However I feel Ward in a fantasy fight if he was at 147 would give Floyd a great fight. He COULD win. However ultimately I would not ever bet against Floyd.
                Yea but to me I felt that you believed he would win.

                As far as boxrec is concerned. Regardless of how you feel about boxrec, you referenced it anyway, even after I made that comment about them. I didnt see the need in you bringing them up after that. It felt trollish but whatever.

                And Floyd is twice as accurate based off the numbers. You see it your way I see it my way. We already agreed to disagree on that.

                And yea when you replied to my first comment thats when I started to feel that you had changed your mind. But whatever the case, some things we agree on others, not so much, and thats not a big deal! Great debate my lil dawg!

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                  #88
                  Floyd is just a better version of Ward.

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