Who is the best heavyweight of all time?

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  • SlySlickSmooth
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    #51
    Don't see how anyone beats Ali pre-suspension.. 1964-1967.. a Heavyweight that could move so damn smooth, impeccable. Unorthodox style, but he boxed beautifully. Came back in 1970 and obviously lost some of it from the 3 years, but was still able to beat the likes of Foreman and even stop Bonavena.

    Although, it is arguable that Kenny Norton had Ali's number.

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #52
      Originally posted by Andre Wardttke
      Just one of Liston's KO's against Patterson is miles ahead of any win of a Vitali Klitschko's.
      You can't really believe that.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #53
        Originally posted by yoz
        Ali, of course; but I think H2H, Lennox gives him a tough fight.
        Lennox would beat Ali H2H. He was just as technical, way bigger and had twice the power. Ali didn't have that one punch KO power that it took to suprise and KO Lewis.

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        • Boxing Goat
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          #54
          Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
          Don't see how anyone beats Ali pre-suspension.. 1964-1967.. a Heavyweight that could move so damn smooth, impeccable. Unorthodox style, but he boxed beautifully. Came back in 1970 and obviously lost some of it from the 3 years, but was still able to beat the likes of Foreman and even stop Bonavena.

          Although, it is arguable that Kenny Norton had Ali's number.
          That Ali was the best but he was not unbeatable. He was knocked down hard by a Bum. Don't forget that.

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          • JAB5239
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Oh yea? Is that it? Did you somehow ignore the fact that Chisora:

            A) Outweighed Frazier by 30-40 lbs.
            B) Was highly motivated for his first world title challenge.
            C) Lost wide on the cards even though Vitali was injured early in the fight and still won a wide decision.
            And he's still far less skilled than Frazier.

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            • LacedUp
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              #56
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              Didn't Broner do all those things better than Maidana as well?

              I would also question him being more skilled. Vitali has never been outboxed by anyone he's ever faced. That can't be said about Ali.
              Just stop posting. You quite clearly know nothing about the sport despite having watched it for 30 years as you claim.... Lol

              Comparing Broner to Ali. Jesus.

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              • JAB5239
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                #57
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                That Ali was the best but he was not unbeatable. He was knocked down hard by a Bum. Don't forget that.
                I'm curious, what "bum" are you referring to?

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                • ButtScratcher^^
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                  #58
                  It's always been muhammad ali. Skill, heart, entertainment value combined and you got the whole package. He's the best heavyweight nothing comes close.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    I'm curious, what "bum" are you referring to?
                    Almost certainly the first Henry Cooper fight, which wasn't in the timeframe mentioned and took place before Ali was even champion.

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                    • Capaedia
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                      #60
                      Its Ali, but that wont stop me from voting for Frazier

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