Is there any options that Mayweather has at 147 that are not cherry picks?

[Doctor_Tenma]

It was still very accurate.

It wasn't man, it really wasn't. The fighters he mentioned fought more consistently so they ran across much weaker opposition than Floyd is seeing today. You said Thurman would have to prove himself against Alexander, maybe even a Khan (Insane) and my question to you is, what suggests that Alexander is any better than Thurman, Broner or even Guerrero? The fighters you mentioned with the exception of Bradley are flawed, some of them are too flawed, I wouldn't be surprised if either of them roused out of that bunch.

[4Corners]

S**t even Devon Alexander, as bad as that sounds right now, would be a legit Top WW in his prime and a unification.

Floyd can do no right, nevermind that the other best fighter there hasn't fought a WW since Clottey, and has only fought one good fight since Clottey.

[jcpryor]

Consider this, the guy retires when the division was at its hottest. Margarito, Cotto, Shane, Williams, etc, were all fighting each other for the most part. All posed some type of threat. Then he comes back, against a career featherweight, at 147. Takes off another year, fights, takes off another year, rinse and repeat. All while calling himself the best ever.

That's the standard he created himself. How convenient that he comes back when the division is a wasteland.


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It annoys me when people pretend like they know someone es motives for doing something. You clearly think May weather retired because he was scared to fight any of the fighters you mentioned, some of which were on Top Rank at the time, meaning they most likely wouldn't have fought regardless of if he retired or not. I have no idea if that was actually the case, but I seriously doubt it. I totally get if a fighter wants totake time away from the sport to recoup and relax with their family if they're in a position to do so. Its notas uncommon as you're implying. How long was May weather retired for again? I don't remember off the top of my head.

[MGMGRAND]

S**t even Devon Alexander, as bad as that sounds right now, would be a legit Top WW in his prime and a unification.

Floyd can do no right, nevermind that the other best fighter there hasn't fought a WW since Clottey, and has only fought one good fight since Clottey.

People don't think logically though, some how Devon a LEGIT WW champ would be a cherry pick

[bojangles1987]

People complain about everything literally, the last time Floyd fought an opponent that was widely seen as a cherry pick was Marquez, even then that was a tune up coming off of a 2 year layoff.

I'm pretty reasonable, you know me and I don't think Guerrero was a cherry pick, obviously Cotto and Alvarez and Mosley should go without saying, but Ortiz was a straight up cherry pick. Dude spends a year not caring about boxing but jumped on the chance to fight Victor Ortiz.

[bojangles1987]

People don't think logically though, some how Devon a LEGIT WW champ would be a cherry pick

Alexander would be better than Khan, but people got pissed when he was tweeting about Devon instead of Guerrero because Mayweather/Alexander would be the most narcoleptic, horrible, uncompetitive fight to watch in all of boxing. Guerrero was a better fight than that crap, it's only now when we might have to watch Mayweather/Khan that we think, "Gee, Devon Alexander might not be so bad."

[Doctor_Tenma]

I'm pretty reasonable, you know me and I don't think Guerrero was a cherry pick, obviously Cotto and Alvarez and Mosley should go without saying, but Ortiz was a straight up cherry pick. Dude spends a year not caring about boxing but jumped on the chance to fight Victor Ortiz.

Not even Ortiz man, and people here did not see a problem with that fight after he handled Berto, that was the consensus at the time. We knew Ortiz was a mental case but people found interest because of the physical tools Ortiz possessed, that and his size as well.

[4Corners]

It was still very accurate.

Hahaha No it wasn't. Aside from the big big fights every so often that they fought, the fought a ton of just "contenders". Floyd has been fighting the Top contenders around his weight.

Mosley was the man at 147 after he stopped Margarito, and was someone the supposed best fighter Pacquiao wanted no part of at the time. Ortiz wasn't a GREAT fighter, but given what was possible at the time, and the fact he beat Berto who was being groomed as a possible Floyd or Pac opponent, made him a legit opponent in 2011. He was also a Top 2 WW after that win. Cotto was the #1 guy at 154, and was a fight people wanted Floyd to take. Guerrero like Ortiz wasn't GREAT, but legit and solid, who'd had a couple wins against Top 10 WW's going in, and given what was available, he made sense. And Canelo was THE FIGHT everyone wanted to see after he beat Trout.

Meanwhile in that time period Pacquiao fought Margarito coming off a TKO loss to Mosley, Mosley coming off a wide UD loss to Floyd and draw with Mora, Marquez 3 at a weight he'd only been dominated by Mayweather at, Marquez 4 because of the debacle that was Marquez 3, and Rios coming off a loss at 140 to Mike Alvarado.

Only Tim Bradley was a legit good fight that Manny's taken since Cotto and Clottey.

[bojangles1987]

Not even Ortiz man, and people here did not see a problem with that fight after he handled Berto, that was the consensus at the time. We knew Ortiz was a mental case but people found interest because of the physical tools Ortiz possessed, that and his size as well.

Anyone who bought into that fight was out of their minds. I said as much at the time. There was no scenario where Ortiz was ever going to be trouble for Mayweather. That being said, you're right that people did buy into it. Far as I'm concerned, that was a cherry pick.

[4Corners]

I'm pretty reasonable, you know me and I don't think Guerrero was a cherry pick, obviously Cotto and Alvarez and Mosley should go without saying, but Ortiz was a straight up cherry pick. Dude spends a year not caring about boxing but jumped on the chance to fight Victor Ortiz.

But Floyd seemed like he was there at Berto-Ortiz looking at Berto, I think that was his plan, to beat an undefeated young champion. Ortiz upset him, and it made sense.

The consensus on here going in was "Can Ortiz test Mayweather with his size, probably not, but it's an interesting fight given Ortiz' physical tools". No one thought Ortiz was going to win, aside from a select few, but it wasn't a bad fight.

I mean it's like Floyd is so good he can't fight Top contenders without people saying "Cherry pick". Imagine if Pacquiao was able to fight someone like Devon Alexander in April. I guarantee you most people on here would be like "Hey he's fighting a Top WW in his prime, for his title", but if Floyd fought him, it'd be blasphemy.

By the way I'm hoping Floyd fights Danny Garcia in May, that's a good and big fight IMO. Not that I think Danny will win, but he's undefeated and should be Top 10 P4P coming off a huge win and has other solid wins. Devon Alexander would be okay I guess, I just think the fight would be boring as hell, even though Devon is a Top prime WW with a title and dominated Maidana who's showed he's not too bad at 147 I guess. Khan would be straight up bullcrap.