Is there any options that Mayweather has at 147 that are not cherry picks?

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  • brick wall
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    #131
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    How could that fight have happened at that point when he first moved up?

    And having the shoe on the other foot, when Mayweather moved up from his first weight class to 135 he fought Castillo in his first fight. Now apply that to Garcia.

    lol are you really gonna be literal about everything? i just use tszyu to make a point being the best welter at that time.

    and besides we're not just talking about the best in the weight here but the best p4p fighter right now so do you even realize the degree of difficulty you're trying to put garcia on here?

    and wasn't augustus floyd's first fight at 135?

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      #132
      Originally posted by brick wall
      angel said it impliedly...there was a thread about it here in nsb.

      who cares who he fought and beat at 140...we're talking about floyd's level here so i don't know why you keep on repeating that. khan, past primes morales and judah, matthysee...are you really gonna use that as a barometer to argue if he's ready for floyd? and it's not like he dominated judah and matthysee.
      He said that there's no rush. He didn't say he wasn't ready. He's said multiple times that he's open for Danny to fight Mayweather. So, he didn't say "Danny's not ready".

      What do you mean who cares who beat at 140? 140 is probably a better divison than 147 or atleast as good.

      Who could he fight to be ready for Floyd? When will he be ready for Floyd and if beating Khan, Matthysse and Judah aren't fights that make you ready for Floyd then who is ready outside of Pacquaio?

      Danny's more than ready, he's beaten top level fighters and whilst he didn't dominate Judah or Matthysse he beat them convincingly and is the most proven fighter around 140-147 that's available to Mayweather.

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        #133
        Mayweather has pretty much ran out of options. GBP doesn't have anything left to feed to him to make a big PPV with. Maybe a FLOP PPV would make Showtime panic like they did after the Guerrero fight numbers was Average (at least by Mayweather standard) and it forced them to give the fans the Canelo fight earlier than originally planed because allegedly the Canelo fight was suppose to come at the back end of his CBS/Showtime Deal

        Amir Khan would be a complete JOKE and I don't care if your the biggest Mayweather fan, if that is who he is fighting next...NOBODY should even try to defend that choice and Mayweather will deserve all the bashing he is going to receive if he picks Amir Khan

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          #134
          Originally posted by brick wall
          lol are you really gonna be literal about everything? i just use tszyu to make a point being the best welter at that time.

          and besides we're not just talking about the best in the weight here but the best p4p fighter right now so do you even realize the degree of difficulty you're trying to put garcia on here?

          and wasn't augustus floyd's first fight at 135?
          If Augustus was Mayweather's first fight at 135 then Garcia has already had 15 fights at Welterweight.

          You do know that, right?

          Mayweather was coming off a lay off and had his return fight with Augustus at 135 then returned back to 130 to continue his reign. Then, moved up to 135 and his first fight there was Castillo.

          If that's the standard, then Garcia has had 15 fights at Welterweight.

          The point is moving up 1 weight class isn't going to be an issue and won't make a difference it just mean's he'll have to cut less weight.

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            #135
            Originally posted by BoxingAddict773
            Funny part is, everyone is considered a cherry pick once May decides to face them
            Should have been the first and last post of this thread. Floyd was either forced to fight someone he was afraid of (Mosley, Canelo) or he cherry picked them no matter who they were.

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            • brick wall
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              #136
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              He said that there's no rush. He didn't say he wasn't ready. He's said multiple times that he's open for Danny to fight Mayweather. So, he didn't say "Danny's not ready".

              What do you mean who cares who beat at 140? 140 is probably a better divison than 147 or atleast as good.

              Who could he fight to be ready for Floyd? When will he be ready for Floyd and if beating Khan, Matthysse and Judah aren't fights that make you ready for Floyd then who is ready outside of Pacquaio?

              Danny's more than ready, he's beaten top level fighters and whilst he didn't dominate Judah or Matthysse he beat them convincingly and is the most proven fighter around 140-147 that's available to Mayweather.

              no, angel garcia said it's dumb to fight floyd right away if his son moves up to 147. he wants his son to blend in with the welterweights before taking a floyd fight.

              danny is not yet ready to fight floyd...that's my opinion and i didn't just pull that out of my ass. i couldn't think of anything that he could offer to have a chance against floyd.

              you on the other hand thinks he's ready...what made you think that? let's hear it.

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                #137
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                If Augustus was Mayweather's first fight at 135 then Garcia has already had 15 fights at Welterweight.

                You do know that, right?

                Mayweather was coming off a lay off and had his return fight with Augustus at 135 then returned back to 130 to continue his reign. Then, moved up to 135 and his first fight there was Castillo.

                If that's the standard, then Garcia has had 15 fights at Welterweight.

                The point is moving up 1 weight class isn't going to be an issue and won't make a difference it just mean's he'll have to cut less weight.

                he's what? you're losing me lol. so castillo was not his first fight then...good.

                and who said moving up in weight is an issue here? now if it's moving up to fight floyd then yeah i have an issue for that especially for a less-skilled fighter like garcia. if the better skilled fighter is the one moving up then by all means make the fight. not garcia for floyd though...that's a pretty one-sided fight at welterweight.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by brick wall
                  no, angel garcia said it's dumb to fight floyd right away if his son moves up to 147. he wants his son to blend in with the welterweights before taking a floyd fight.

                  danny is not yet ready to fight floyd...that's my opinion and i didn't just pull that out of my ass. i couldn't think of anything that he could offer to have a chance against floyd.

                  you on the other hand thinks he's ready...what made you think that? let's hear it.
                  I think he's ready because he's proven at the top level, shown he's a top fighter and should be considered to be amongst one of the top 10 P4P best fighters in the world.

                  He's seasoned, skilled, has power in both hands, timing that Mayweather arguably hasn't seen, good chin and in his prime.

                  The weight's not an issue because he's the right size for WW, clearly with intentions to move up and the same size as Mayweather.

                  What makes you think he's not ready? And who does he have to beat to be ready?

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by brick wall
                    he's what? you're losing me lol. so castillo was not his first fight then...good.
                    So in that case Mayweather-Garcia won't be Garcia's first fight at Welterweight then so what's your point? You know that Garcia has had plenty of fights at Welterweight in his career?

                    Originally posted by brick wall
                    and who said moving up in weight is an issue here? now if it's moving up to fight floyd then yeah i have an issue for that especially for a less-skilled fighter like garcia. if the better skilled fighter is the one moving up then by all means make the fight. not garcia for floyd though...that's a pretty one-sided fight at welterweight.
                    Isn't that exactly what you're saying there with the closing sentence?

                    Why is he not ready "at 140"? He's moving up one weight class.

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                    • brick wall
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I think he's ready because he's proven at the top level, shown he's a top fighter and should be considered to be amongst one of the top 10 P4P best fighters in the world.

                      He's seasoned, skilled, has power in both hands, timing that Mayweather arguably hasn't seen, good chin and in his prime.

                      The weight's not an issue because he's the right size for WW, clearly with intentions to move up and the same size as Mayweather.

                      What makes you think he's not ready? And who does he have to beat to be ready?
                      are you trolling with the "timing that floyd arguably hasn't seen? lol

                      and how's that timing will work against floyd's timing? garcia's timing is good when he's counterpunching but do you really think floyd will give him that? floyd will pick him apart from outside with his longer reach and quicker hands. and by the time garcia can react floyd is already out of reach.

                      garcia is just inferior to floyd in all areas of boxing plain and simple and the gap is not even close. he's not ready period.

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