Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[KBRO]

Dude. If those are your best power shots then your sorry ass couldn't bust an egg with a hammer.

You don't even wanna know what you're throwing.. all illegal shots.. rabbit punches behind the head... anything foul.. you're on it. The Klitschko's need to throw a right hand to your chops so you can apologize for your blatant bias... poet duuuuude!

[cupocity303]

Yet they all have plenty of rewatchable fights. I have never heard of someone wanting to rewatch a Wlad or Vitali fight lol

Just off the top of my head, I could rewatch Vitali creaming Shannon Briggs over and over. It's a bigger man version of Floyd/Gatti. It was a true snuff film.

So there.

[!! Shawn]

One of the best uppercuts in heavyweight history. They should give Lennox an extra point for that uppercut alone, it was so badass.

V.Klit should get in the HOF for taking it. Not sure how he did, that was monstrous.

[cupocity303]

The closest is Lennox Lewis, but at least he went to work on fighters in the first rounds a dozen or so times as an established fighter - I haven't seen the Klitschko's do that. Not Vitali, nor Wladimir. Except Vitali's fight against Hide, when he was still a relatively unknown quantity to the wider boxing public.

Vitali didn't go to work on Shannon Briggs? He did everything but knock him out that night.

[KBRO]

Lol I'll link you to a different poll showing the Vits as NOT an ATG. Fact remains you cant refute my link or logic.

Please... not another one of your biased polls... if you had any type of logic.. you'd realize there's absolutely no way to outthrow Vitali Klitschko & that you can take to the bank.. so he's always going to beat ANYONE to the punch REGARDLESS of whether he lands or not because of his unprecedented fighting stance.... so anyone who fights him usually starts with a 99% size disadvantage... they will also be throwing less punches.



If that's all he had to get by on... he'd be a clear H2H favorite against anyone... throw in the fact that he isn't that easy to hit & he throws constant hard shots from wherever he's positioned in the ring & any fighter he's facing is behind the 8 ball.. whether it's a tomatoe can or one of the best heavies to lace them up.



This is why he's just NOT an alltime great... he's the HARDEST & most difficult boxer to beat because of all those things I outlined.... his unprecedented numbers are legit.. you just don't wanna see it... I do.. he's no Deontay Wilder.. he knows how to fight & knows how to box.. his kickboxing experience has seen to that as he has an unfair advantage over anyone that's ever laced them up.

So you can keep your polls & your bias... you won't ever find this type of overall dominance in a fighter ever again.. he's got the least amount of weaknesses out of anyone... if your only boxing weakness is getting injured or getting cut... then I'd say you're one special fighter.

[GoldenGloveLove]

First of all Wlad and Vitali's legacies are not the same and they won't be in the same neighborhood when all is said and done. Wlad will be way over Vitali. These are not one person. I'm really tired of hearing about them as a package deal. They may not mind because that's how tight they are but it's BS. Second: Worst of all time? Are you serious?

[cupocity303]

Oh, you think you covered every possible angle in this post, didn't you. Lets break it down.

[QUOTE=R_Walken;13986018Are they all time greats not a chance I say this because neither has a single W over a elite or A grade fighter.

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"Elite A grade fighter". Which one is it? Elite or A Grade or merged as one? This is such a subjective methodology, it's laughable. Both have beaten plenty of A fighters, and if 'Elite' qualifies as that one long time foe, then it's David Haye and Wlad beat him.

Keep in mind that a Heavyweight is limited to what he can accomplish since he can't win titles at Light-heavyweight, Cruiserweight and then look good on Wlad's resume. All they can face and defeat is TOP CONTENDERS, for what it's worth. The Top contender cannot become anything else besides a contender unless he beats Wlad or Vitali. Brewster defeated Vitali, is he elite or just a bum who defeated him? Because that's what I'm sensing your answer would be.

If you compare heavyweight fights from the 60 - 90's you realize how much better the division used to be It's a shame what it is now most of the top ranked guys are 3rd rate Euro Bums.

Butthurt-American- snob- nostalgia Alert!!! If you gave a few more details about this "60-90's" comment and weren't so vague, I would have a better time knocking it down.

[cupocity303]

So why are they not on PPV in Germany?

"Because RTL don't do PPV" - Bernd Boente.

"Yeah, but if there was demand for it they'd find a way" - Andrew Whittaker.

It's not a measure of greatness per se, no. But it shows you how much interest there is in their fights. But you are right though, if they were american they would have probably been one HBO ppv once or twice.

Has it ever occurred to you that it's not a business model over in Germany. They have a difference audience and they're nothing like Americans who just want to be "entertained".

Over there, they're doing what American Boxing did back in the black and white TV era, and that's broadcasting nationally instead of a limited paying audience, and I thought you guys liked the golden era's of days past. That's better than PPV's. I lived in Germany anyway and they're generally behind in times. They did break-dancing when it was already out of style in America. It was a rude awakening. But in a lot of areas, it's a good thing.

[KBRO]

V.Klit should get in the HOF for taking it. Not sure how he did, that was monstrous.

His jaw was hardened from his previous experience in kickboxing.. bracing for kicks as well as punches gets you prepared to take any shot.. even sneaky ones that are unexpected.. like those two shots he took from Lennox towards the end & the sneaky left from Sanders.... at one point in the second rd you could clearly see Sanders throwing free shots at Klitschko with his hands completely down by his waist.. at that point Klitschko was getting used to Sanders delivery & the power of his punches & that's where Sanders was toast... 90% of all heavyweights get knocked down from those same punches that were landed on Klitschko by Sanders & Lewis.

[daggum]

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