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Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?
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Originally posted by KBRO View PostChris Byrd was ranked & so were a few other's before Lennox like Donald & Hide was ranked & had the WBO belt....most of Vitali's comp early on wasn't the strongest but if we took most past great's comp early on it's a who's who of nobodies as well... Vitali was the ONLY one to do what he did.. koing 27 straight & Deontay has surpassed it regardless of how week the opposition was so stop singling out Vitali when most other champs started out with least resistance also but couldn't do what he did every time out.
Dominant means dominance regardless of resistance.. the definition NEVER changes.. only your perception of how it was attained.
here you go http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--1990s
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--2000s
how can you blatantly lie in the face of facts? is reality really that hard to deal with? he fought no one but crumb bums until lennox. he was protected!Last edited by daggum; 12-06-2013, 07:45 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postnone of the guys he fought until lewis were ranked. check the rankings! why do you hate facts? byrd was a no one and was only ranked after beating vitali. hide hadn't fought a soul so why would he be ranked? just for having a belt lol. donald? just no.
here you go http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--1990s
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--2000s
how can you blatantly lie in the face of facts? is reality really that hard to deal with? he fought no one but crumb bums until lennox. he was protected!
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostYou've been owned by facts and links son!
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Originally posted by KBRO View PostI love how you claim victory when everyone who's subjective has clearly seen you being taken to school on this thread.. you're throwing jabs (they're not even Klitschko potent ones) & weak body punches while I'm throwing all power shots.. you claiming a W is like Byrd & Lewis' victories.. they are anything but.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostYeah, ok!
The discrepancy in the ones that are posting favoritism for the brothers doesn't reflect that as they are being intimidated.. it's more like 10% who are actually defending them & that shows cowardice on the part of the posters here.. unfortunately they don't want to be ganged up on.Last edited by KBRO; 12-06-2013, 08:53 PM.
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Originally posted by KBRO View Post44.44% claim alltime greatness for the Klitschko's.... that's one out of every 2 & 1/4 polled... clearly there's less haters than I thought on here.. I've done my part.
The discrepancy in the ones that are posting favoritism for the brothers doesn't reflect that as they are being intimidated.. it's more like 10% who are actually defending them & that shows cowardice on the part of the posters here.. unfortunately they don't want to be ganged up on.
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Originally posted by F!x View PostThere are often mixed views on the Klitschkos all-time status. Some believe they could one day be considered ATG fighters while others believe they are average boxers in a devision devoid of A Class or even B Class fighters.
As each era in boxing passes there are peaks and troughs in the level of competition - highs and lows - so the champions of each era are often viewed through the lens of the "quality of opposition", and their opposition is directly compared and contrasted against the opposition of champions from other eras.
Through this analysis, there are champions from one era who couldn't be considered to be in the same league as the champion(s) of another era.
So where do you place the Klitschkos - are they among the "worst" champions of all time, among the best champions or somewhere in between?
"they could one day be considered ATG fighters" is a misnomer. They are already ATG's, just not GOAT's.
"average boxers in a devision devoid of A Class or even B Class fighters." This statement would only be true if they consistently squeaked out split decisions in competitive fights against these B and C class fighters (not that all of them are B and C, that obviously is Western nostalgia hyperbole). But since they dispose of these so called "bums" 90% of the time in the same dominant fashion, then they by definition cannot be average. They're doing what they're supposed to do against these perceived no-hopers, displaying clear superiority.Last edited by cupocity303; 12-06-2013, 11:33 PM.
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