Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[Poet682006]

The lancasters won in the end, sort of.

Not really. The Tudors weren't legit Lancastrians and their direct line died with Elizabeth I and their cadet line died with the Stuarts. Nice to see someone else around here with arcane knowledge :chuckle9:

[Poet682006]

The lancasters won in the end, sort of.

Interestingly enough their are living descendants still of Harold Godwinson :cool9:

[Normanconqueror]

Interestingly enough their are living descendants still of Harold Godwinson :cool9:

Really? Got a link to that story? I'd be interested in that.

Are there any people in England still loyal to York or Lancaster? The war of the roses was a nasty but fascinating bit of business. I'm always reading about that period of history.

[Poet682006]

Really? Got a link to that story? I'd be interested in that.

Are there any people in England still loyal to York or Lancaster? The war of the roses was a nasty but fascinating bit of business. I'm always reading about that period of history.

http://my.raex.com/~obsidian/Britpret.html

Look for the line of descent from the House of Wessex and then through the line of descent of the Scottish crown.

[Normanconqueror]

http://my.raex.com/~obsidian/Britpret.html

Look for the line of descent from the House of Wessex and then through the line of descent of the Scottish crown.

Thanks brother

[Ham Porter]

You're grossly underrating him.. he can more than hold his own. I rank him as the #1 H2H fighter in boxing history.. considering & taking everything into account.. size.. strength.. boxing & fighting skills.. best OVERALL NUMBERS in A heavyweight champion in boxing history.. least amount of weaknesses.. power.. throws punches in bunches. always beats you to the punch.. hard to hit.. can take your best punch no matter what,, has the best ko & scorecard ratio in the history of boxing bar none.. all these things taking place is no aberration..6ft 7 & 250 lbs without any substantial flunctuation for each & every fight.. I challenge anyone to find MoRE strengths & most importantly advantages that he has when they've fought in a physically healthy state.

Yet for all these numbers, all these advantages, he is still 0-2 against the best, most accomplished boxers he ever stepped in the ring with.


It's pretty telling that Vitali's career defining performance came in a loss.

[Jedi Vader]

It's ridiculous but not vile.. you're entitled to your opinion & I'm entitled to mine.. I go into detail to back my opinions.. not too many do this. The brothers combined are 106-5 in the heavyweight division... just think about that for a second... almost 40% of those bouts have been title bouts.. if they are not all-time greats then no one is.... 54% HERE don't think so & that's just pathetic hate.

In typical Klitlicking fashion, you're tag teaming two fighters' records into one.

[SN!PER]

In typical Klitlicking fashion, you're tag teaming two fighters' records into one.

Vitalimir Klitschko

[JAB5239]

So is your all-time great list but yet you deem that as factual.

Look, if you want to debate boxing that's fine, but stop blatantly lying. I haver never claimed my ATG list as factual or the end all. What it is though is based on numbers that are inarguable and facts. Numbers like these that you refuse to have a logical debate on opting instead to call me a hater and make up lies.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=620248

[Jedi Vader]

Vitalimir Klitschko