Carl Froch vs George Groves IBF SMW Title & Undercards Prediction Discussion Thread

[MDPopescu]

Worst stoppage ive seen in a long time

bloody hilarious when you see it in slow mo

ref jumped right in there

looks like a proper fix

Groves was not hurt he was tired, but not hurt, hands were still up and he was throwing punches

Disgraceful

Edddie Hern did say the fight would be over by 9, must of had a bet on

I would have made a similar bet (i.e. Froch by KO in the late rounds), If I was to make a bet on... But I never make bets on sports events (I'm always afraid that they might be somehow fixed)...

[LacedUp]

Yeah you would be right up there with CJ Ross.

Anyone who thinks Froch was level in rounds with Groves needs their head examined.

I was thinking the same. Bradley beat pacquiao and Lewis probably lost to Holy in their first fight. Hell, Helenius clearly beat Debo.

Actually I think I should look into becoming a judge, my cards are usually right on point with most judges scores..Like usual tho,Dirk knows best,go with the popular opinion..Don't mean it's the right one..

What Dirk said.

CJ.

[Weebler I]

I honestly can't see how you could score round 2 and 3 to Froch. Those were clear Groves rounds. He landed the far cleaner shots, and all of his jabs were going in - add to that he pressed the action. Froch pawed with his jab, landed nothing significant and looked shaky on his legs in those rounds.

R 5 & 8 were both close, but could be persuaded to give them to Froch. But he didn't win more rounds than those.

Two of the scorecards were disgraceful.

I tuned Jim out Nah, I didn't score the fight live as I watched it with a m8, so that was my first time scoring it. It can sometimes take a couple of viewings to get it. My view is pretty similar to Koba-Grozny's above.

R.2, Groves's jab wasn't effective in that round, nor was Froch's although I give CF's jab the slight edge. IMO doesn't matter who presses the action, Johnson pressed Froch too but Froch landed the clean, effective punches and I liked Froch's bodyshots. Groves was a little overeager and made some mistakes. In saying that, I could see it scored the other way or even. It definitely was a close round, I don't see it as clear round to either fighter.

R.3, Groves's jab was much more effective. I felt he won the first half of the round, but Froch opened up and beat him backwards in the second half of the round. I see a good case for Groves on activity, but felt Froch's punches were more effective in the exchanges, i.e. they were hurting Groves more (subjective opinion) and he got his eye lumped up. I no longer see it as a clear Froch round, it was another close one which I could just as easy see going to Groves on activity.

Where I part from you is the notion they weren't close rounds. I believe they were, and close rounds tend to go to the champ (it's wrong but it's reality).

[Rome-By-Ko]

I tuned Jim out Nah, I didn't score the fight live as I watched it with a m8, so that was my first time scoring it. It can sometimes take a couple of viewings to get it. My view is pretty similar to Koba-Grozny's above.

R.2, Groves's jab wasn't effective in that round, nor was Froch's although I give CF's jab the slight edge. IMO doesn't matter who presses the action, Johnson pressed Froch too but Froch landed the clean, effective punches and I liked Froch's bodyshots. Groves was a little overeager and made some mistakes. In saying that, I could see it scored the other way or even. It definitely was a close round, I don't see it as clear round to either fighter.

R.3, Groves's jab was much more effective. I felt he won the first half of the round, but Froch opened up and beat him backwards in the second half of the round. I see a good case for Groves on activity, but felt Froch's punches were more effective in the exchanges, i.e. they were hurting Groves more (subjective opinion) and he got his eye lumped up. I no longer see it as a clear Froch round, it was another close one which I could just as easy see going to Groves on activity.

Where I part from you is the notion they weren't close rounds. I believe they were, and close rounds tend to go to the champ (it's wrong but it's reality).

Close rds,you must be CJ Ross to..LMAO..

[Weebler I]

Close rds,you must be CJ Ross to..LMAO..

CJ stays focus', flomos "be knocking her hustle"

[IronDanHamza]

Those arm punches looked like they might have done some damage.



Lol - Groves is ginger. He gets a black eye from sparring. You are almost insulting him if you don't give him a couple of black eyes. Froch did get a couple of jabs and right hands in, but punishment? Don't be silly.

Froch took some punishment - to the extent where he looked shook by jabs.



Go back and look at round 8 and tell me who landed the better punches. Froch tried to do a couple of flurries, but they weren't landing, so they weren't scoring. It might have been one of Froch's best rounds, that says a lot for the performance he gave. To have it 4-4 is just ridiculous and embarrassing. But it goes in line with some of the other cards you have posted in the past so i'll take it with a pint of salt.

You talk about Rome not living in reality but neither are you.

He clearly took a lot of punishment. It doesn't Mayer if you have red hair and fair skin you don't get a face like that unless you take a lot of punishment.

Did you see the post fight press conference? He was out of it.

"A few jabs" and "a few right hands" don't leave you face in that kind of state.

[LacedUp]

You talk about Rome not living in reality but neither are you.

He clearly took a lot of punishment. It doesn't Mayer if you have red hair and fair skin you don't get a face like that unless you take a lot of punishment.

Did you see the post fight press conference? He was out of it.

"A few jabs" and "a few right hands" don't leave you face in that kind of state.

Dan, I respect your opinion on most topics, but honestly you sound like you are too biased on Froch's behalf.

Groves didn't take "punishment" - He took nothing more than what you would expect in going up against a top class fighter. He didn't catch many clean shots and wasn't dropped multiple times or anything like that.

He sparred Dirrell and came in with a black eye. Even after the Adamu fight he was marked a bit. Of course light skinned people get easier marked than darker skinned people.

It usually fades quickly as well - case in point, see his interview with Sky from monday.

[LacedUp]

Close rds,you must be CJ Ross to..LMAO..

No just you.

[LacedUp]

I tuned Jim out Nah, I didn't score the fight live as I watched it with a m8, so that was my first time scoring it. It can sometimes take a couple of viewings to get it. My view is pretty similar to Koba-Grozny's above.

R.2, Groves's jab wasn't effective in that round, nor was Froch's although I give CF's jab the slight edge. IMO doesn't matter who presses the action, Johnson pressed Froch too but Froch landed the clean, effective punches and I liked Froch's bodyshots. Groves was a little overeager and made some mistakes. In saying that, I could see it scored the other way or even. It definitely was a close round, I don't see it as clear round to either fighter.

R.3, Groves's jab was much more effective. I felt he won the first half of the round, but Froch opened up and beat him backwards in the second half of the round. I see a good case for Groves on activity, but felt Froch's punches were more effective in the exchanges, i.e. they were hurting Groves more (subjective opinion) and he got his eye lumped up. I no longer see it as a clear Froch round, it was another close one which I could just as easy see going to Groves on activity.

Where I part from you is the notion they weren't close rounds. I believe they were, and close rounds tend to go to the champ (it's wrong but it's reality).

When I score a fight, I'm thinking to myself: "Who would I rather have been of the two fighters?" - we can go on about Froch landed 6 jabs, Groves landed 5 jabs - but this isn't amateur fighting.

Groves was the boss in both rounds and landed the best punches. He looked like he was engaging in the fight and Froch didn't.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Even just forget the rounds. Look at the fight as a whole after 8 rounds and if you think Carl Froch was in any way on level terms with Groves at that point, I'm sorry - you just don't know what you're watching or you have some kind of bias.

Yes it was closer than Jim Watt was suggesting but Froch was quite clearly behind.

I think maybe people are so appalled by Watt's commentary that they've gone to the other extreme and are now giving Froch rounds just because of it.