why is floyd- khan a bad fight, yet pacquiao rios is good?

[Rome-By-Ko]

This is reasonable. Just like I can completely undertand why this fight is happening. its reasonable to ask if a true ww would give us a better account of what manny has left at this stage than Brandon Rios.

I think floyd, tim, jmm and manny are the best ww's.

TR does not have any good WW tho,I mean I'd rather see Rios then Vargas..Manny at least wanted a rematch with Marquez as well,I just don't see how ya can knock Manny for this fight..I guess he could have fought Alvarado..That could be my only knock I guess..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Rios is less ready for manny than Brook is. Brandon Rios has no business in the ring against an elite ww whether he is coming off a KO loss or not.

I don't know about that,Rios has at least fought at a high level..Brook has not bro..I really don't agree with this one..

[hectari]

Floyd fans are the worst.

instead of downing Pacquiao versus Rios they should be saying style make fights, and being cool with the fight not downing it. This way they can justify Kahn vs. Floyd, saying style makes fights, but instead they have to go the compare route and again down Pac's fights to make Floyd look better or to justify his fight.

They can never praise Pacman.

That is their first mistake, they keep sticking their foot in their mouth by discrediting Pacman just like with the catchweights for years every thread they would post catchweight king like annoying low IQ lemmings just like a broken record, many times no other reply but catchweight king was left just spamming.

Than Floyd fights one they try to justify it, they didn't want to give Pac credit for beasting on Cotto a guy Floyd didn't fight in his prime, and had the nerve to say Cotto was revived when Floyd fought him? but before that Pac was in talks for a rematch and they were saying Cotto was shot and Pac would beat him easy at 154, and than when Floyd has a tough fight with Cotto they say Floyd just did it on purpose to give the fans blood lol, and than said this Cotto would destroy Pacquiao.

How about just say both are good fights, and styles make fights? you know why they can't do that because they spent so many years hating on fighters especially pacquiao and discrediting them to make Floyd look better that they ****ed up.

The floyd fans are nothing but Haters.

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn is nothing but a hater so now he is mad that people will praise Pac if he destroys Rios?

Yet he is okay with all these people praising the media hype undefeated Floyd for his wins against tailormade fighters who are flat footed like Guerrero, and weight drained Canelo.

Why are those points wins so impressive and allowed to be praised? But the funny thing is if Pacman fights a tailormade guy he 1 has to knock the guy out, 2 if he destroys them there is always an excuse like the guy was tailormade. Also these flowmos are NEVER impressed by Pacmans super dominate destruction, for me if you fight a tailormade guy you must destroy them. Floyd fought a tailormade shot Oscar and he nearly lost a SD and look wack in that fight, not something you expect from the self proclaim greatest. When Pac was cherry picked by Oscar, Pac did what you are supposed to do to shot fighters destroy them.

Floyd beating a tailormade guy on points equals amazing! beast mode etc.

Pac beating the same guys by brutal beatdown unimpressive.

^that is the flowmo logic. nothing but lame worshippers of Floyd,

Oh Dunn thought a chubby Marquez cheated on the scales, Vic 'I give up/not in the face' Ortiz and Robert 'I beat the great Berto now wheres my superfight' Guererro were a super sensational run of opposition. Couldnt find fault with any of that guff could our little Dunny.

Its ok boys, I know you guys are not equipped to address valid criticisms as adults. Its hard because when a fight starts off at -$450 its hard to make rational adults believe its a risky fight. SOrry Hectari but a 4-1 underdog is an easy fight whether its floyd or manny.

Its also hard for any rational boxing fan to believe that Brandon Rios or any contender at JWW can help reveal what any elite ww has left.

The fact remains that the criticisms I raised are valid. Nothing either one of you has posted can change that.

[hectari]

I don't know about that,Rios has at least fought at a high level..Brook has not bro..I really don't agree with this one..

Dunn is stretching here. He won't even take into consideration that Pacquiao is past his prime and coming off a huge KO loss. Its funny how he wants Brook to fight Pac, yet Brook rejected a fight with him years ago when he was the mandatory. Brooks main focus is chasing Khan.

Also will Dunn discredit Brook like he does for every Pac fight? I mean **** if Pac fought a guy who came off a KO loss like he did, Dunn would say pathetic Pac cherry picking, yet Brook should get full credit for fighting a KO Pac?

I guess the only one who cherry picks is Pacman even when he is past his best and coming off a KO loss. They never have compassion, these flowmos are relentless and heartless kicking a man while he is down no shame in their game.

[The Big Dunn]

TR does not have any good WW tho,I mean I'd rather see Rios then Vargas..Manny at least wanted a rematch with Marquez as well,I just don't see how ya can knock Manny for this fight..I guess he could have fought Alvarado..That could be my only knock I guess..

I don't know about that,Rios has at least fought at a high level..Brook has not bro..I really don't agree with this one..

Rios is untested at ww if I am correct. His power may not come up with him. He may not be able to take a ww punch. There are too many unknown variables to accurately determine how he will function at ww.

[toyboy33]

I'm not sure Rios could beat Khan. I'd put my money on the Brit and that's not saying Khan is all that either. More so its telling that Rios is head first and is tailor made for guys like Khan and Mayweather and he'll get beat pillar to post by Pacquiao. This why Arum made the fight. Rios is a sacrificial lamb to get Pac back into the mix. Of course Rios could land a lucky shot but I doubt it.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd fans are the worst.

instead of downing Pacquiao versus Rios they should be saying style make fights, and being cool with the fight not downing it. This way they can justify Kahn vs. Floyd, saying style makes fights, but instead they have to go the compare route and again down Pac's fights to make Floyd look better or to justify his fight.

They can never praise Pacman.

That is their first mistake, they keep sticking their foot in their mouth by discrediting Pacman just like with the catchweights for years every thread they would post catchweight king like annoying low IQ lemmings just like a broken record, many times no other reply but catchweight king was left just spamming.

Than Floyd fights one they try to justify it, they didn't want to give Pac credit for beasting on Cotto a guy Floyd didn't fight in his prime, and had the nerve to say Cotto was revived when Floyd fought him? but before that Pac was in talks for a rematch and they were saying Cotto was shot and Pac would beat him easy at 154, and than when Floyd has a tough fight with Cotto they say Floyd just did it on purpose to give the fans blood lol, and than said this Cotto would destroy Pacquiao.

How about just say both are good fights, and styles make fights? you know why they can't do that because they spent so many years hating on fighters especially pacquiao and discrediting them to make Floyd look better that they ****ed up.

The floyd fans are nothing but Haters.

I have been as critical of the floyd/khan potential fight as I am of this one. why would anyone say these are good fights.

Pointing out the fight opened at -$450 is not discrediting Manny. Its the truth. Posting that Rios is untested at ww is the truth.

Your problem isn't that I'm iscrediting manny, its that I'm pointing out the obvious. If I had posted irrational criticisms you and gong wouldn't have taken the time to try and label me to make the criticisms seem invalid.

This is an easy comeback fight to make manny look greta. Cool. Just don't try and make beating Brandon Rios mean anything.

Dunn is stretching here. He won't even take into consideration that Pacquiao is past his prime and coming off a huge KO loss. Its funny how he wants Brook to fight Pac, yet Brook rejected a fight with him years ago when he was the mandatory. Brooks main focus is chasing Khan.

Also will Dunn discredit Brook like he does for every Pac fight? I mean **** if Pac fought a guy who came off a KO loss like he did, Dunn would say pathetic Pac cherry picking, yet Brook should get full credit for fighting a KO Pac?

I guess the only one who cherry picks is Pacman even when he is past his best and coming off a KO loss. They never have compassion, these flowmos are relentless and heartless kicking a man while he is down no shame in their game.

This second post is very stan/misery level. DUnn has not accussed manny of cherrypicking for this fight. DUnn simply used Brook mas an example of a non tr affiliated ww. shawn porter is another example. I didn't call for a manny/brook fight persay.

I think a win over a more established ww would answer the quesions regarding where manny is right now. you seem to disagree.

I have considered manny's circumstances. No, compassion did not factor into my assessment of the fight.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Rios is untested at ww if I am correct. His power may not come up with him. He may not be able to take a ww punch. There are too many unknown variables to accurately determine how he will function at ww.

We know it's not always about weight tho bro,that's really all I'm saying..Rios has most certainly fought at a higher level then Brook at this point of both their respective careers..If Pac could fight Garcia or Matt's for instants,they would be more credible opponents then Rios or Brook even tho neither have fought at WW before..It's about the class of fighter,and Rios(up to this point)has proven to be ahead of Brook in their respective careers..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Dunn is stretching here. He won't even take into consideration that Pacquiao is past his prime and coming off a huge KO loss. Its funny how he wants Brook to fight Pac, yet Brook rejected a fight with him years ago when he was the mandatory. Brooks main focus is chasing Khan.

Also will Dunn discredit Brook like he does for every Pac fight? I mean **** if Pac fought a guy who came off a KO loss like he did, Dunn would say pathetic Pac cherry picking, yet Brook should get full credit for fighting a KO Pac?

I guess the only one who cherry picks is Pacman even when he is past his best and coming off a KO loss. They never have compassion, these flowmos are relentless and heartless kicking a man while he is down no shame in their game.

I would like to think this is not the case with Dunn,I like him and he makes valid arguments and has very good boxing knowledge..I kinda see his point,but at the same time..Who is there for Pac to fight??I mean Bradley and Marquez were fighting each other,Thurman Broner Lopez all fight for GBp..Nobody wants to see Pac vs Vargas..Only knock I can see is that maybe he should have fought Alvarado..Outside of that,I think this is a reasonable fight..