why is floyd- khan a bad fight, yet pacquiao rios is good?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Pac ran roughshod over the last batch of legit welters, in a span of 18 months. What passes for top welters now are guys with 1-2 welter fights, usually unimpressive. Or Thurman, who has potential but not 1 top 10 win yet, or Brook, perpetually unprepared to face a top tenner.

Everybody knows that Floyd/Pac excluded, Bradley and JMM are the best at welter. Pac already fought them, and just offered them career paydays that they passed on.

Come on dude with the ****** comments..

[The Big Dunn]

That would put you at odds with just about everybody inside the sport and everyone that isnt a bumsniffing fanboy. Its a long road back for any fighter who has just been sparked out, 99% of fighters dont come back at all well after that and certainly not one who is approaching the end of a very long and gruelling career.

Run me a list of fighters who came back brilliantly after getting knocked out in devastating fashion and I'll show you a much longer one of those that didnt. I know you're a floydgimp and as such, objectivity is not something we can count on or expect from you, but your post was unbelievably ******.

Funny, take one sentence , parse it, then respond.

Had manny been fighting ww's consistently instead of JWW/LW's moving up than the argument that a return fight against a 2nd tier JWW is ok because he's coming off a KO would be valid. An elite ww should have to fight ww's at some point.

The fact is he got to keep his title and his ww ranking while fighting JWW's without making the effort to get down to 140. If he is at the end of his career than do the time honored tradition of fighting a young ww so a win could elevate him.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I can agree with this post for the most part. That said, a manny ko win is seen as returning him to him to the #1 ranked ww position and making the floyd fight a big deal again. Should a win over a 2nd tier jww moving up have this much value? SHouldn't a guy beat an established ww before a potential fight for the lineal ww title?

Manny was a ww champ and seen as the 2nd best ww while fighting the JWW/LW's moving up. This blueprint was put in place well before he got KO'd. Now its justifiable because of the KO? I disagree.
I think the above are fair and valid criticisms of this fight, in addition to it not being ppv worthy.

Now I don't know about the highlighted..If Pac KO's Rios tho,he should get credit for it,and should be looked at as being ok to return to fighting top fighters..These is a feel out fight to see where Pac is at,what he has left..No need to take a shot at the guy..

[junior gong]

Funny, take one sentence , parse it, then respond.

Had manny been fighting ww's consistently instead of JWW/LW's moving up than the argument that a return fight against a 2nd tier JWW is ok because he's coming off a KO would be valid. An elite ww should have to fight ww's at some point.

The fact is he got to keep his title and his ww ranking while fighting JWW's without making the effort to get down to 140. If he is at the end of his career than do the time honored tradition of fighting a young ww so a win could elevate him.

Dude, you are just finding anything to whine about because its Manny. You have been doing this for probably longer than I've been here and its noticed by everyone so dont come it. None of what you just said had anything to do with the fact that Manny has just been starched. Rios is a risk coming off that loss, just about everybody connected with the sport will tell you the same(obviously unless they are aligned with floyd). If Manny is the same and hasnt lost anything then it should be straight forward, but we dont know that. So where is your list of fighters who got starched at the end of their career and came back in great fashion?

[HeroBando]

Come on dude with the ****** comments..

WTF? He offered 13m to JMM, and 6m to Bradley. They rejected it for much smaller purses. Dude why are you talking to me? You're useless

[The Big Dunn]

Pac ran roughshod over the last batch of legit welters, in a span of 18 months. What passes for top welters now are guys with 1-2 welter fights, usually unimpressive. Or Thurman, who has potential but not 1 top 10 win yet, or Brook, perpetually unprepared to face a top tenner.

Everybody knows that Floyd/Pac excluded, Bradley and JMM are the best at welter. Pac already fought them, and just offered them career paydays that they passed on.

You can justify it however you wish, your crazy claims about running rough shod and highest paydays notwithstanding. These are fair criticisms of manny and this fight. There are non TR affiliated ww's like kell brook who can easily fight manny.

Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd. Pac fights JMM, Bradley and then JMM within 16months and gets criticised for taking on 3 top 6 p4p fighters in a row.

Floyd not only very rarely fights such high quality and rated opposition let alone in small time frames let alone 3 in row at that.
Because Floyd don't fight often and much, he will of course have to make up for it in other ways by fighting, highly rated or bigger fighters.
None of which he does anyway. Canelo wasn't a top 10 p4p fighter. Speaks for itself.

Manny is held to a far lower standard. If floyd fought JMM and tim back to back you amd the rest of the imbeciles here on NSB would be up in arms about floyd cherrypicking. No one wanted to see a floyd jmm rematch after he KO'd manny. WHen bradley got his gift, more people, including you, wanted floyd to fight Canelo.

If any oher elite ww was fighting rios you and other manny fans would be highly critica of it.

[hectari]

In regards to a khan/mayweather match up, the reason I think it is a garbage fight is the fact that Khan, while being a money drawing name, has not had a significant victory in quite a while. His last fight he struggled heavily against a man of gate keeper caliber, before that was knocked out by Danny Garcia, and before that lost to Peterson (which was overturned due to illegal substance, but even so he was not impressive at all). Nothing on Khan's recent resume is deserving of a superfight. And I LIKE Khan overall, but I can't let that bias blind me if those facts.

Both Manny and Brandon are coming of losses, Manny is on a two fight losing streak and in reality doesn't deserve anything much above a Brandon Rios fight. Also, I think it is foolish if a fighter tries to jump right into a super fight right after being knocked out cold.


I hold BOTH Manny and Floyd accountable for avoiding Sergio (they both avoided Williams as well). Who competes for a title in a higher weight class and then doesn't expect for the heavier fighters to want to fight? Both Floyd and Manny fought at the heavier weight against fighters who were unproven in that division and had no possible chance in the fight. They both fight at a catch weight. Sergio was willing to go as low as 150 lb. And Sergio is considered to be a small middleweight.

Sorry you can't hold Manny accountable for avoiding Sergio. Sergio never called out Manny he wanted Floyd and even said **** about Manny saying he was too small even sampson his manager said that.

Also Manny was honest and open saying when he fought Margo he got a beating of a life time and said it was way to big, didn't he weigh in at 144 and Margo at 150? Pac admit that was much to high for him. Floyd on the other hand said NO CATCH WEIGHTS because he wants to fight guys at their best not drain them, later he fights Canelo at catchweight after fighting two guys at 154. so he has to be held accountable for his hypocrisy he was super vocal and repetitive when him and his fans were discrediting Pacquiao for the cotto win.

The Paul Williams fight with Pacquiao was possible and Arum was talking to Goossen about it before the rematch with Sergio. P will was more focused and hyped about facing Pac at 147 he had interviews saying he was ready to go back down he was overlooking Sergio and he got knocked out.

There were a couple of Floyd fan boys already making excuses for that fight saying Pacman is draining P will to 147 when they felt the fight was possibly going to be made.

[The Big Dunn]

Now I don't know about the highlighted..If Pac KO's Rios tho,he should get credit for it,and should be looked at as being ok to return to fighting top fighters..These is a feel out fight to see where Pac is at,what he has left..No need to take a shot at the guy..

You know that once manny ko's rios what we are going to see here on NSB and hear in the press. Its fair and reasonable to expect and ask an elite ww to take on ww opposition. To retain his ww ranking and status off this level of comp is problematic.

I'm sure if this was any other ww there would be complaints. Imagine if Broner defends his ww title against, a string of JWW's?

[HeroBando]

You can justify it however you wish, your crazy claims about running rough shod and highest paydays notwithstanding. These are fair criticisms of manny and this fight. There are non TR affiliated ww's like kell brook who can easily fight manny.



Manny is held to a far lower standard. If floyd fought JMM and tim back to back you amd the rest of the imbeciles here on NSB would be up in arms about floyd cherrypicking. No one wanted to see a floyd jmm rematch after he KO'd manny. WHen bradley got his gift, more people, including you, wanted floyd to fight Canelo.

If any oher elite ww was fighting rios you and other manny fans would be highly critica of it.

Ok so Pac should be fighting Kell fcuking Brook When that's your trump card you know you got nothing. Brook is not ready for Alexander, much less Pac.

JMM is only a tough matchup for Pac dude. Was Ali cherrypicking when he fought Norton 3x? Foreman would say so, right? Wasn't there talk of Floyd Oscar rematch? Now did anyone ask for a Pac Oscar rematch? That would be a cherrypick.

[DeadLikeMe]

Because they've been planning on making Khan-Floyd for like three years or more already, but Khan kept losing. Now they're just forcing it through anyway. It's not a very good fight.