why is floyd- khan a bad fight, yet pacquiao rios is good?

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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #111
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    I am not dis*****g what the majority of posters thinks will happen, I am simply arguing that the initial betting line and the lack of movement up to this point suggests those concerns are not valid. am also someone who believes a 4-1 underdog is that no matter who is fighting.
    Khan is a joke in the sport of boxing at the moment..He could have removed this stamp had he fought someone credible and beat um..Rios is not a joke,I can respect your loyalty bro..This is just the case with both fighters right now,and the answer to the thread tbh..

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #112
      Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
      i'm not sure about using a betting line to prove anything is factual. im sure you know there are many factors that contribute to them, none of which are really concrete.

      you are very very sensitive when it comes to floyd. i havent taken a side other than that i hate floyd and manny fanboys.
      the betting line clearly refutes the noton that this fight has a huge element of mystery to it.

      I'm not sure how my argument about the betting line or anything else I've posted is a sign of sensitivity to floyd.

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      • HeroBando
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        #113
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        thats not why you blocked me, you got mad because I called you out on the black power fl0wmo crap.



        the above may be true but it has no bearing on how he will perform in a fight at ww. its shameful for you to even post that.

        You are trying to justify rios getting this fight and there is none other than he is likely to produce a profitable, exciting fight where he loses. that is the exact logic of the floyd/khan fight.

        the question is does manny coming off the ko mitigate it?

        IMO, no becuase losing by KO doesn't mean manny is no longer an elite ww, especially considering IMO he beat Tim and he lost the JMM fight becuase of a technical, correctable mistake.
        There's a lot of uncertainty around Pac's condition, and Rios is just the kind of guy that'll surface any issues like a broken chin or gunshyness, in a way a better fighter like Bradley couldn't (not that he wasn't offered a career high purse first).

        Anyway, refer to that Rios vs Khan poll, then compare Floyd and Pac's respective position for some context. The more vulnerable guy with many questions around him is taking on the much more dangerous fighter.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #114
          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          Khan is a joke in the sport of boxing at the moment..He could have removed this stamp had he fought someone credible and beat um..Rios is not a joke,I can respect your loyalty bro..This is just the case with both fighters right now,and the answer to the thread tbh..
          No loyaly involved. Khan is not a joke-the notion that him fighting floyd is surely a joke. Ros is not a joke-the notion of this being a test for manny to guage where he is at ww is.

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          • WilkinsOlajuwon
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            #115
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            the betting line clearly refutes the noton that this fight has a huge element of mystery to it.

            I'm not sure how my argument about the betting line or anything else I've posted is a sign of sensitivity to floyd.
            what huge element of mystery? i said the chance of an upset is greater in the pac fight than the floyd one.

            perhaps you should ask yourself why you chose those words.

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            • thuggery
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              #116
              doesn't surprise me to see Ellerbe himself in here defending Floyd vs Khan

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #117
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                There's a lot of uncertainty around Pac's condition, and Rios is just the kind of guy that'll surface any issues like a broken chin or gunshyness, in a way a better fighter like Bradley couldn't (not that he wasn't offered a career high purse first).

                Anyway, refer to that Rios vs Khan poll, then compare Floyd and Pac's respective position for some context. The more vulnerable guy with many questions around him is taking on the much more dangerous fighter.
                In your opinion there is. fine. in the opinion of the line setters there isn't. that is my only point. manny fans can make this more than it is that doesn't mean everyone outside of NSB will.

                NSB opinions are fine. WHen have I said anything positive about the floyd/khan fight? Everything you have posted is fine with me. That still doesn't make Rios anything more than a heavy underdog.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  No loyaly involved. Khan is not a joke-the notion that him fighting floyd is surely a joke. Ros is not a joke-the notion of this being a test for manny to guage where he is at ww is.
                  Khan is a joke bro,his last two fights were a joke as well..Rios has fought top level consistently Khan has not..Remember Mccloskey Molina and Diaz??This has all been in the last three yrs..Khan is a bit of a joke bro..

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                    what huge element of mystery? i said the chance of an upset is greater in the pac fight than the floyd one.

                    perhaps you should ask yourself why you chose those words.
                    and I said the betting line dispells this. besides, do you really think there is a question if manny wins this fight?
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-18-2013, 12:13 PM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      Khan is a joke bro,his last two fights were a joke as well..Rios has fought top level consistently Khan has not..Remember Mccloskey Molina and Diaz??This has all been in the last three yrs..Khan is a bit of a joke bro..
                      if you are saying he is a joke of a ww I agree 100%. there is no way khan deserves, has earned, or should be considered for a floyd fight. that does't mean a fight with khan/ghost orkhan/devon would be a joke.

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