why is floyd- khan a bad fight, yet pacquiao rios is good?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    Originally posted by junior gong
    Dude, you are just finding anything to whine about because its Manny. You have been doing this for probably longer than I've been here and its noticed by everyone so dont come it. None of what you just said had anything to do with the fact that Manny has just been starched. Rios is a risk coming off that loss, just about everybody connected with the sport will tell you the same(obviously unless they are aligned with floyd). If Manny is the same and hasnt lost anything then it should be straight forward, but we dont know that. So where is your list of fighters who got starched at the end of their career and came back in great fashion?
    Rios started at -$450 and has been a a 4-1 underdog since the fight was announced. Rios is not perceived as a risk by those that set the lines and make money off betting simply because manny got KO'd. So when you post what "everyone wil tell me" shove it up your ass.

    Rios himself is coming off a loss to a fighter who is not in Manny's class. DOes that factor into your assessment of this fight?

    We don't know what manny has left, that is correct. That doesn't mean a JWW coming up reveals what he has left. A full flegged ww might give us a better account of what he has left.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #72
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      You know that once manny ko's rios what we are going to see here on NSB and hear in the press. Its fair and reasonable to expect and ask an elite ww to take on ww opposition. To retain his ww ranking and status off this level of comp is problematic.

      I'm sure if this was any other ww there would be complaints. Imagine if Broner defends his ww title against, a string of JWW's?
      How many JWW has he fought tho??Not to mention Pac only fought Marquez and Bradley(and Bradley had fought at WW already as well)after he had dismantal most of the WW div..

      You of course are gonna have ya nuttsuckers who jump the guy and maybe give Manny to much un-deserve praise..I think tho most understand at this stage where Manny is..We just wanna see if he can still take it,I mean I think his talents will still be there..I just wanna see if the mental side is still there,after that I'm sure he'll rematch Bradley..Who is the best WW behind Mayweather..So I believe you'll get ya wish..

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        #73
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        Ok so Pac should be fighting Kell fcuking Brook When that's your trump card you know you got nothing. Brook is not ready for Alexander, much less Pac.

        JMM is only a tough matchup for Pac dude. Was Ali cherrypicking when he fought Norton 3x? Foreman would say so, right? Wasn't there talk of Floyd Oscar rematch? Now did anyone ask for a Pac Oscar rematch? That would be a cherrypick.
        Rios is less ready for manny than Brook is. Brandon Rios has no business in the ring against an elite ww whether he is coming off a KO loss or not.

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        • junior gong
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          #74
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          Rios started at -$450 and has been a a 4-1 underdog since the fight was announced. Rios is not perceived as a risk by those that set the lines and make money off betting simply because manny got KO'd. So when you post what "everyone wil tell me" shove it up your ass.

          Rios himself is coming off a loss to a fighter who is not in Manny's class. DOes that factor into your assessment of this fight?

          We don't know what manny has left, that is correct. That doesn't mean a JWW coming up reveals what he has left. A full flegged ww might give us a better account of what he has left.
          So anyway, where is your list of fighters that have been brutally knocked cold at the end of their career and came back looking sensational?

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          • hectari
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            #75
            Dunn is nothing but a hater so now he is mad that people will praise Pac if he destroys Rios?

            Yet he is okay with all these people praising the media hype undefeated Floyd for his wins against tailormade fighters who are flat footed like Guerrero, and weight drained Canelo.

            Why are those points wins so impressive and allowed to be praised? But the funny thing is if Pacman fights a tailormade guy he 1 has to knock the guy out, 2 if he destroys them there is always an excuse like the guy was tailormade. Also these flowmos are NEVER impressed by Pacmans super dominate destruction, for me if you fight a tailormade guy you must destroy them. Floyd fought a tailormade shot Oscar and he nearly lost a SD and look wack in that fight, not something you expect from the self proclaim greatest. When Pac was cherry picked by Oscar, Pac did what you are supposed to do to shot fighters destroy them.

            Floyd beating a tailormade guy on points equals amazing! beast mode etc.

            Pac beating the same guys by brutal beatdown unimpressive.

            ^that is the flowmo logic. nothing but lame worshippers of Floyd,
            Last edited by hectari; 11-18-2013, 10:13 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
              How many JWW has he fought tho??Not to mention Pac only fought Marquez and Bradley(and Bradley had fought at WW already as well)after he had dismantal most of the WW div..

              You of course are gonna have ya nuttsuckers who jump the guy and maybe give Manny to much un-deserve praise..I think tho most understand at this stage where Manny is..We just wanna see if he can still take it,I mean I think his talents will still be there..I just wanna see if the mental side is still there,after that I'm sure he'll rematch Bradley..Who is the best WW behind Mayweather..So I believe you'll get ya wish..
              This is reasonable. Just like I can completely undertand why this fight is happening. its reasonable to ask if a true ww would give us a better account of what manny has left at this stage than Brandon Rios.

              I think floyd, tim, jmm and manny are the best ww's.

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                #77
                Originally posted by SlyDominican
                be honest you just hold floyd to standards that arent even humanly, yall treat him like hes superman or something i mean you are calling for him to fight middleweights and super middle weights,,you want him to fight sergio yet when sergio called manny out you didnt make a peep

                why is floyd held to such high unhuman standards by fickle fans?
                Smh rios is probably a bigger threat than khan number 1. And manny isn't the number 1 fighter in the world, Floyd is. So for him to fight khan is a joke. PS stop trolling.

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                • junior gong
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  Dunn is nothing but a hater so now he is mad that people will praise Pac if he destroys Rios?

                  Yet he is okay with all these people praising the media hype undefeated Floyd for his wins against tailormade fighters who are flat footed like Guerrero, and weight drained Canelo.

                  Why are those points wins so impressive and allowed to be praised? But the funny thing is if Pacman fights a tailormade guy he 1 has to knock the guy out, 2 if he destroys them there is always an excuse like the guy was tailormade. Also these flowmos are NEVER impressed by Pacmans super dominate destruction, for me if you fight a tailormade guy you must destroy them. Floyd fought a tailormade shot Oscar and he nearly lost a SD and look wack in that fight, not something you expect from the self proclaim greatest. When Pac was cherry picked by Oscar, Pac did what you are supposed to do to shot fighters destroy them.

                  Floyd beating a tailormade guy on points equals amazing! beast mode etc.

                  Pac beating the same guys by brutal beatdown unimpressive.

                  ^that is the flowmo logic. nothing but lame worshippers of Floyd,
                  Oh Dunn thought a chubby Marquez cheated on the scales, Vic 'I give up/not in the face' Ortiz and Robert 'I beat the great Berto now wheres my superfight' Guererro were a super sensational run of opposition. Couldnt find fault with any of that guff could our little Dunny.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by junior gong
                    So anyway, where is your list of fighters that have been brutally knocked cold at the end of their career and came back looking sensational?
                    Producing the list has no bearing on the quality of this fight or the validity of certain criticisms. Marlon starling, roberto duran, lennox lewis and other fighters have been KTFO and went on to have great careers.

                    Brandon Rios is not good enough for any of us to get an accurate reading as to what manny has left at ww at this stage of the career.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SlyDominican
                      be honest you just hold floyd to standards that arent even humanly, yall treat him like hes superman or something i mean you are calling for him to fight middleweights and super middle weights,,you want him to fight sergio yet when sergio called manny out you didnt make a peep

                      why is floyd held to such high unhuman standards by fickle fans?
                      Rios has a punchers chance since Pacquiao was Ko'd. Khan Chin stands no chance even a against a not so hard hitting Floyd

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