why is floyd- khan a bad fight, yet pacquiao rios is good?

[Rome-By-Ko]

I am a floyd fan and do not feel the need to apologize for it. I have been VERY critical of manny, sometimes unfairly, I take jabs at his personal life, sometimes unnecessarily, I do not give him the benefit of the doubt as other posters do, and I am the first one to respond to what I percieve is a bull**** post from one of his fringe fans, often in a mean spirited way. I post the truth about manny. when I'm worng, I apologize. I hold him to the same standard posters hold floyd and when posters go in on say a Broner for possibly having AIDS I remind them Manny could too.

On this one I am not doing any of the above. I responded to bushbaby's post and I stand by it. there are valid criticisms of this fight. Even with those criticisms, it doesn't change the fact that the floyd/khan fight is an absolute ****ty, crap fiht that I hope doesn't happen.

This fight is very similar and is justifiable for the same financial annd political reasons that one could use to justify floyd/khan.

I believe I've been fair to both Manny and Floyd,and for the most part have stayed out of their feud..I can tell you their situations are not the same(as a Floyd fan you should be happy about this)Floyd is the best fighter in the game and(sorry to say it)is held to a higher standard because this is the case..A fight against Khan can not(I repeat can not)be defended bro..I knew he'd fight Alvarez..I give Floyd full credit for that masterpiece..I also give Floyd major credit for fighting a fighter many said he would not fight..

Fighting Khan is not only a step back,it's like falling down a well..Manny is coming off a KO loss,so we don't expect to see him in there with some animal right away..May is not in that same boat bro,there for I really can't see how this is at all the same situation..

[The Big Dunn]

if you MUST compare the matchups for the sake of some bratty, whiny, over privileged, line-in-the-sand, fake poser fanboy reasoning...this isnt a head scratcher. they are both fights against lesser opponents with zero fights at welter weight.

a fight's merit should--and i stress should because a lot of fanboy punks are ******--be gauged by if we can predetermine the outcome.

the main difference between these fights is that pac is coming off a brutal loss and we dont know what kind of form he's in. there is a greater chance that fight wont go as planned than there is with a floyd fight v Khan.

while many posters have said this-the opening betting line of manny -$450 and the fact the line hasn't moved suggests that the opinion "there is a greater chance that fight wont go as planned than there is with a floyd fight v Khan" is not factual.

Again, we are talking about those in th business of setting betting lines. Of course an upset could happen.

[Rome-By-Ko]

if you MUST compare the matchups for the sake of some bratty, whiny, over privileged, line-in-the-sand, fake poser fanboy reasoning...this isnt a head scratcher. they are both fights against lesser opponents with zero fights at welter weight.

a fight's merit should--and i stress should because a lot of fanboy punks are ******--be gauged by if we can predetermine the outcome.

the main difference between these fights is that pac is coming off a brutal loss and we dont know what kind of form he's in. there is a greater chance that fight wont go as planned than there is with a floyd fight v Khan.

Excellent post sir..

[Rome-By-Ko]

while many posters have said this-the opening betting line of manny -$450 and the fact the line hasn't moved suggests that the opinion "there is a greater chance that fight wont go as planned than there is with a floyd fight v Khan" is not factual.

Again, we are talking about those in th business of setting betting lines. Of course an upset could happen.

The chances are greater with Pac then with May tho,why would you ever put Pac at lower betting odds tho??Everyone on this(or should I say the majority)thinks Pac will win..It's just more of a factor of the unknown involved with the Pac Rios fight,that you won't get with Khan..Rios is not looked at as a joke,Khan is bro..It's really simple..

[The Big Dunn]

I believe I've been fair to both Manny and Floyd,and for the most part have stayed out of their feud..I can tell you their situations are not the same(as a Floyd fan you should be happy about this)Floyd is the best fighter in the game and(sorry to say it)is held to a higher standard because this is the case..A fight against Khan can not(I repeat can not)be defended bro..I knew he'd fight Alvarez..I give Floyd full credit for that masterpiece..I also give Floyd major credit for fighting a fighter many said he would not fight..

Fighting Khan is not only a step back,it's like falling down a well..Manny is coming off a KO loss,so we don't expect to see him in there with some animal right away..May is not in that same boat bro,there for I really can't see how this is at all the same situation..

Fans of eiher fighter can find reasons to justify each fight. Other than profit and politics, I can't. Thats why I have voiced my displeasure for both.

The only difference is I will likely end up purchasing the floyd fight because I am a huge fan, where I will go out to watch Manny/rios. Just as I would watch Lakers/Bobcats over Miam/OKC or Cowboys/Jaguars over Broncos/Chiefs because I am a Lakers and cowboys fan.

[TOBYLEE1]

That is not a good matchup. It might be a fan friendly fight but is not a defining fight for Pac. Pac did get knocked out and would be entitled to a comeback rebuilding fight but not on PPV like this.

On top of that the undercard is very weak. I'm not paying for this one, can't justify to pay for this fight

[The Big Dunn]

The chances are greater with Pac then with May tho,why would you ever put Pac at lower betting odds tho??Everyone on this(or should I say the majority)thinks Pac will win..It's just more of a factor of the unknown involved with the Pac Rios fight,that you won't get with Khan..Rios is not looked at as a joke,Khan is bro..It's really simple..

I am not dis*****g what the majority of posters thinks will happen, I am simply arguing that the initial betting line and the lack of movement up to this point suggests those concerns are not valid. am also someone who believes a 4-1 underdog is that no matter who is fighting.

[-PBP-]

PPV is about demand. Pacquiao will be on PPV no matter the opponent because it will do numbers and HBO would blow their budget by paying his purse in a World Championship Boxing Card.

This is just a fight to try and rebuild Pac and since its an opponent that will be right there in front of him it probably will make him look like the old version.

But none of them are "good" fights. But Rios/Pac is obviously more justifiable considering where Floyd and Pac are in their careers right now.

[HeroBando]

I'm not sure Rios could beat Khan. I'd put my money on the Brit and that's not saying Khan is all that either. More so its telling that Rios is head first and is tailor made for guys like Khan and Mayweather and he'll get beat pillar to post by Pacquiao. This why Arum made the fight. Rios is a sacrificial lamb to get Pac back into the mix. Of course Rios could land a lucky shot but I doubt it.

Go vote in that poll, maybe with your help Khan gets 15%

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

while many posters have said this-the opening betting line of manny -$450 and the fact the line hasn't moved suggests that the opinion "there is a greater chance that fight wont go as planned than there is with a floyd fight v Khan" is not factual.

Again, we are talking about those in th business of setting betting lines. Of course an upset could happen.

i'm not sure about using a betting line to prove anything is factual. im sure you know there are many factors that contribute to them, none of which are really concrete.

you are very very sensitive when it comes to floyd. i havent taken a side other than that i hate floyd and manny fanboys.