How can you watch the Ouma and Stevens vs GGG fights and...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

i cant name anyone who looked good vs Ouma...

roman karzimin or whatever his name was,,,

[DoktorSleepless]

I'm not convinced Golovkin has some amazing wizardly subtle defense that takes an expert keen eye to see despite the insistence. I think he's getting by using offence as the best defense, which is especially effective with a certain level of opposition. It might even still be effective at the elite level, but that's really yet to be seen.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Stevens landed several punches of note actually, he had GG backing up.

Golovkin's inside game, who did he showed this to?Is there a fight where I can see Golovkin fighting inside?

Golovkin isn't slick or defensive enough to dominate Froch or Kessler in the inside. You saw their vulnerability against Andre Ward, this Ward we're talking about. Ward and Golovkin are worlds apart in slickness, defense and inside fighting.

One of those cases where we're gonna have to agree to disagree then. I've seen infighting in all his fights pretty much, I could understand the argument in quality of opposition which isn't entirely his fault but he's shown the skill set to mix it up in close where Froch and Kessler are vulnerable. Ask yourself this, is it a coincidence that when Froch and Kessler fought each other they would get tangled up and constantly separated? Kessler needs room to punch, considerably more so Froch. They may posses very good chins but it's one thing when your repeatedly getting hit with big punches, and again that's what I envision would happen.

[-Kev-]

I've never seen people reaching so much over a fighter

Elaborate.

I'm using facts, it is true that Stevens landed that much on GG. It is true that Froch and Kessler and 6' 1" with 74-75" reach advantage, they have shown to have granite chins.It is true that there was only 2 KO's in the Super 6, showing that once you step in level, you better have more than power in your game. It is a fact that SMW's weigh around 185lbs on fight night.

Now, where am I reaching?

[jetgizo]

Only in boxing smh. You make a mistake at 2 yrs old people will bring it up to make their argument. Boxing is the only sport where you are not allowed to get better. People still bring up the first Castillo fight even though it was almost 15 years ago. Like it has any relevance to the way the man fights today.

[Ham Porter]

i cant name anyone who looked good vs Ouma...

Taylor and Karmazin both dominated him, back when he was in his prime.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not convinced Golovkin has some amazing wizardly subtle defense that takes an expert keen eye to see despite the insistence. I think he's getting by using offence as the best defense, which is especially effective with a certain level of opposition. It might even still be effective at the elite level, but that's really yet to be seen.

He is definitely not very good defensively.

Pretty plain to see in my eyes.

[The Problem Child]

Kev ducking my post like Martinez is ducking Golovkin lol. Martinez gets beat by Margarito, life and death with Kelly Drunk Pavlik and get throw around like a ragdoll by a high weeded up Chavez Jr. Which versions of those does Triple G not beat? Get real, little man.

Until your fav fighters stop ducking Triple G, you have no right to have an opinion or voice.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Mind you, another thing to consider, Glen Johnson stunned Froch multiple times, fought competitively throughout and he did it by landing a short chopping right hook over the top which is Golovkin's best punch. Glen Johnson stepped to Froch using his typical high guard and Froch still attempted to fight behind a stick as oppose to standing in there and working around the guard the way Golovkin would have done.

[-Kev-]

I'm not convinced Golovkin has some amazing wizardly subtle defense that takes an expert keen eye to see despite the insistence. I think he's getting by using offence as the best defense, which is especially effective with a certain level of opposition. It might even still be effective at the elite level, but that's really yet to be seen.

You're not convinced because it isn't there to begin with.

I said it in the GG-Stevens post fight threads, Golovkin has no defense and basically overpowered Stevens by upping his activity and forcing the stoppage. It worked because of who was in front of him. He didn't use any defense in that fight. If he did, may the lord help him if he ever fights Froch, Kessler, Ward, Hopkins. And I repeat, it will only take a Martin Murray fight to further expose Golovkin and how his power will not be there to help him against the top guys at 168.

Just watch opinions change, it will be a hilarious moment.