How can you watch the Ouma and Stevens vs GGG fights and...

[-Kev-]

I can agree with the Ouma fight but I see that more as an off night, could be wrong but I've looked past that, even though I was very impressed with his offense in that fight. In my honest opinion Golovkin beats Kessler and Froch, that's without even seeing him enter the SMW division.

But we have yet to see him fight the top 5 in the 160 division.

He beats the top 3 at 168?

Lots of opinions would change once he starts fighting the top 3 in his division.

And Stevens landed 32% of his total punches, 39% of his power punches. That is way too much. Surely Ward, Froch, Kessler would land more than that and not like you need to land anymore than that on a fighter. Surpassing those numbers you are venturing into the Margarito realm.

People need to realize that in boxing 50% is already like 100%. You're getting hit at 39% against C fighters, you better hope you have some kind of plan B once you realize your power is taken much better by the likes Froch and Kessler and they keep coming forward, towering over you by 2-3 inches, having a 4-5" reach advantage, snapping that jab in your face from far as you come forward with your defenseless style that you were so recklessly used against 160 fighters outside of the top 10 or barely cracking the top.

It would be a whole different game DS, you have to realize Froch and Kessler are like 6' 1" with a 75" reach advantage and chins made of granite, and power to KO, with underrated defense, while Golovkin is 5' 10", Abraham height, 70" reach advantage, defense barely existent.

Froch would easily keep GGG at the end of that long jab all night,and if he comes close, he better hope he has the chin to take Froch's power. The way Stevens and Ouma backed him up, that didn't look too good.

[Jloro]

The day your favorite fighters (and Kevs) stop ducking Triple G is the day you two have a voice, until then neither of your opinions hold any value at all. It's just the way it is.

GGG is ducking Ward. HE said he is not ready, anybody but Ward!!!!
lol and Martinez wants it after he gets Cottos Soul.
And GG ducking Quillin
Nobody is ducking GGG, that is all an act. Andy Lee even wants to fight him lol

[Southpawology]

So GGG is supposed to be unhittable now? Boxing fans nitpick wayyyy too ****ing much

[Doctor_Tenma]

But we have yet to see him fight the top 5 in the 160 division.

He beats the top 3 at 168?

Lots of opinions would change once he starts fighting the top 3 in his division.

And Stevens landed 32% of his total punches, 39% of his power punches. That is way too much. Surely Ward, Froch, Kessler would land more than that and not like you need to land anymore than that on a fighter. Surpassing those numbers you are venturing into the Margarito realm.

People need to realize that in boxing 50% is already like 100%. You're getting hit at 39% against C fighters, you better hope you have some kind of plan B once you realize your power is taken much better by the likes Froch and Kessler and they keep coming forward, towering over you by 2-3 inches, having a 4-5" reach advantage, snapping that jab in your face from far as you come forward with your defenseless style that you were so recklessly used against 160 fighters outside of the top 10 or barely cracking the top.

It would be a whole different game DS, you have to realize Froch and Kessler are like 6' 1" with a 75" reach advantage and chins made of granite, and power to KO, with underrated defense, while Golovkin is 5' 10", Abraham height, 70" reach advantage, defense barely existent.

Kev, I don't know man, I honestly did not see Stevens land much or hardly anything noteworthy. That said, Stevens knows how to throw short compact punches in close which can't be said about Kessler or Froch who are both vulnerable on the inside and prompt not to fight there. This is why I don't see Froch or Kessler touching Golovkin as much as you would imagine, Golovkin has the foot speed to get close and do serious damage. I don't think your giving Golovkin's defense enough credit.

[-Kev-]

So GGG is supposed to be unhittable now? Boxing fans nitpick wayyyy too ****ing much

He isn't supposed to be unhittable, certainly not with that style of his, that much is evident that he will take some hits in order to get his punches in. This style works great against fringe contenders. But people just don't realize first of all the difference between fighting at 160 and 168, fighting guys who are basically Cruiserweights at 168 as opposed to guys in the 168-175s on fight night at MW.

Do you remember the Super 6 and how there was only 1 or 2 KO's? Green and Taylor. That's it. Cause once you're fighting the top guys, say good bye to your power and show me some skills, cause they can and will take your power at 168. These guys are weighing 185lbs on fight night and already have granite chins and strong punches to boost. Nothing in Golovkin's skills show me that he has the skills to compensate when push comes to shove and fighters are right in front of him laughing at his punches what is he going to do? He was able to overpower Ouma and Stevens but do people really believe he will do the same to Froch and Kessler, or Ward? No way. Not even to Murray when the fight happens.

[DoktorSleepless]

It's as if a stoppage is supposed to make losing 4-5 rounds to 27-7 Ouma less embarrassing.

[T18Z]

See these two C level fighters stay in front of Golovkin, tagging him and tagging him, exposing his lack of defense, lack of elusiveness, and then think Golovkin would destroy A level fighters like Martinez, Ward, Froch, Kessler? I don't get it.

I mean sure, yeah, "He stopped 'em doe". That's the least he could have done after absorbing 39% of Stevens power punches, and who knows how many of Ouma's straight lefts.

Percentages mean nothing without context.

39%, when throwing as few a punchers as Stevens while playing Turtle really isn't good.

An example, 39% of 8 is practically 3. Would you call a fighters defense flawed if they got hit by 39% of 8 power punches thrown, when they only threw 8 in the round?

Golovkin in the final round landed something like 45+ power shots out of 101 punches thrown, that is something to wow about. How about you use actual numbers instead of percentages, or are you afraid you'll see a huge difference in perspective?

If I throw 1 punch a round, making sure I land it, I have 100% connect rate. If I punch Mayweather once, I've hit him 100% of the time, but let me guess, that makes his defense crap? When it comes to power punches landed check quantity.

[-Kev-]

Kev, I don't know man, I honestly did not see Stevens land much or hardly anything noteworthy. That said, Stevens knows how to throw short compact punches in close which can't be said about Kessler or Froch who are both vulnerable on the inside and prompt not to fight there. This is why I don't see Froch or Kessler touching Golovkin as much as you would imagine, Golovkin has the foot speed to get close and do serious damage. I don't think your giving Golovkin's defense enough credit.

Stevens landed several punches of note actually, he had GG backing up.

Golovkin's inside game, who did he showed this to?Is there a fight where I can see Golovkin fighting inside?

Golovkin isn't slick or defensive enough to dominate Froch or Kessler in the inside. You saw their vulnerability against Andre Ward, this Ward we're talking about. Ward and Golovkin are worlds apart in slickness, defense and inside fighting.

[AKAcronym]

He probably won't be able to straight up KO higher caliber fighters and higher weight class fighters, but I don't care who you are, the way GG goes to the body will do damage to anyone around his weight class. A chin can only last so long against those hard of body shots.

[Russian Crushin]

I've never seen people reaching so much over a fighter