No chance of Floyd vs PAC super fight

[The Big Dunn]

ok, i say mayweather refused to fight. there is really no debate about this.

i have a problem with maywether refusing to fight pacman yes. also, look at the last couple of years since. who is the 1 that has been vocal about trying to make the fight? pacman. says floyd can wear his fcuking trunks if wants. what do we hear from mayweather? more excuses.

shade your just saying that to say it. you know it isn't true.

youhave a problem with mayweather asking manny to take ped testing but you dont have a problem with manny refusing it. to justify your position, you call it floyd refusing to fight without regular testing-even though the regular testing would still occur in addition to the extra testing.

of course manny has been vocal at times about the fight-it just so happens these times have been when loyd has a fight signed or manny has a fight signed. so being vocal is not the same as being honest.

what we hear from mayweather is simple-he is not going to give manny 50/50 again. manny can fight floyd so long as he signs an offer that is far more benficial to floyd and terrible for manny. why? because manny stubbornly refused 50/50 way back when and floyd's position has only gotten stronger.

floyd is doing the same ting to manny/bob as they have done to smaller fighters like tim and JMM. I see nothing wrong with that.

[IronDanHamza]

what about the cut? what about the stadium? did pacman say that? didnt think so.

what about just fighting by the same rules you fought every other fight?

His team said it and he stood behind it.

You say Mayweather had excuses, as did Pacquaio, both had plenty. Yet you only talk about one.

10 Million every lb Floyd comes in overweight, a list of cut off dates for testing, cut won't be healed by purposed date, stadium won't be ready.

It's clear that both were happy fighters lesser risks for heaps of money whilst trying to 1 up each other on "who really wants it".

Of course Mayweather get's 100% of the blame. Despite the closest time to it being made the absolute sole reason the fight fell through was because Pacquaio declined and walked away from the table.

[Marvellous1]

That's the point. Pacquiao and most other top pros don't fight by the old standards of commission testing. It doesn't make them all ducks, just wiser than before....... INCLUDING Pacquiao. You still didn't answer my question. Why do you think Pacquiao now demands testing against Rios that he never requested or participated in before? Don't duck it with flippancy this time.

[The Big Dunn]

what about the cut? what about the stadium? did pacman say that? didnt think so.

what about just fighting by the same rules you fought every other fight?

the rules didn't change at all. all floyd did was ask for additional testing-the same way manny asked for additional money penalty if floyd came in overweight.

the difference is floyd said yes (like rios) and manny said no. pwhat if floyd had said no because of the $10 mil per lb penalty? In your mind does that make manny at fault for asking?

[J The UnBiased]

WTF!!!!!, he is a fcuking 8 weight world champion. id say he is relevant. floyd aint got nobody else to fight that adds as much to his legacy as beating pacman would.

Beating Manny would not rank Floyd any higher than what he is right now so stop it.

[IronDanHamza]

it was a whole new ball game. boxers were not doing extra testing.

yeah, pacman is scared of rios. i judged that solely on the fact he asked for testing and didnt come out with a load of other excuses.........

I mean, asking for testing equals being afraid, doesn't it? I don't see Pacquaio asking anyone else. Why not?

Why does it matter that it was new and no one was doing it? 99% of fighters would have accepted that exact same offer.

[J The UnBiased]

oh nooo, big dump back at being a moron again... and here i thought he was getting better at this boxing talk thing.

did he lie?

[BlackSnakeMamba]

That ship has sailed.

[IronDanHamza]

the rules didn't change at all. all floyd did was ask for additional testing-the same way manny asked for additional money penalty if floyd came in overweight.

the difference is floyd said yes (like rios) and manny said no. pwhat if floyd had said no because of the $10 mil per lb penalty? In your mind does that make manny at fault for asking?

Floyd should have turned down the money penalty.

"You haven't asked anyone else for this!!!!!!!"

I wonder who would be in the wrong in that situation.

[The Big Dunn]

His team said it and he stood behind it.

You say Mayweather had excuses, as did Pacquaio, both had plenty. Yet you only talk about one.

10 Million every lb Floyd comes in overweight, a list of cut off dates for testing, cut won't be healed by purposed date, stadium won't be ready.

It's clear that both were happy fighters lesser risks for heaps of money whilst trying to 1 up each other on "who really wants it".

Of course Mayweather get's 100% of the blame. Despite the closest time to it being made the absolute sole reason the fight fell through was because Pacquaio declined and walked away from the table.

both fighters teams realized the fight would sell massive whenever it happened so long as floyd is undefeated since floyd losing is a major reason his non fans buy the fight. they also realized they could make excellent money not fighting each other.

But if you have followed boxing for years there is one thing we all should know-Brad goodman is a HOF matchmaker and ARum NEVER makes a fight if Goodman tells him not to.

Had Goodman given Bob better feedback he makes his fight. Otherwise-he does what he did with Leonard and Hagler-delay until his fighter has a better chance.