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  • #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    Again, the fight was at 147.

    Everyone with a grain of sense knows that Mayweather is not going to come in over 147.

    Still, he asked for 10 Million per pound like a "Master" to his slave and it was easily accepted like you'd expect.

    Can't say the same for everyone in that negotiation.

    I mean, it's a simple request. It's not unreasonable.

    The fact a guy can refuse a drug test, leading to a fight falling through and it be all fine and dandy is just outright ridiculous.

    As are your double standards on the matter.
    it is unreasonable to refuse to fight with the same testing you have done your whole career. why was testing even an issue for mayweather when pac came along?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
      exactly, so it wasnt a big deal. everyone knew he would make 47. but the point still stands, it was justified because mayweather agreed to 144 and didnt do it. hence why marquez got an extra 600k.
      It's a different weight so it's not justified.

      Doing extra testing isn't a big deal either.

      Both asked for unprecedented requests, both were more than reasonable, one was accepted, one wasn't.

      You're ok with one person going out of the official rules to ask for personal requests but when the other does it it's a duck (Of course because Mayweather is Psychic, as he some how knew it would be declined).

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      • #73
        Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
        im sure manny and all the boxing fans around the world, other than you seemingly, are disappointed that the fight didnt happen.
        I'm just as upset as you fight didn't happen. Please, i'm more interested now in your answers to irondan's questions. you seem to have painted yourself in a corner.

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        • #74
          Do yall see the destruction that is taking place in this thread? lol

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          • #75
            Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
            yeah, the contract was changed after he failed to make weight. did marquez look like he knew? i dont think so.
            No it wasn't!


            Mayweather loses $300K per pound

            LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

            The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

            Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

            At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

            However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

            But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

            Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

            According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather's team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

            However, Marquez's contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.


            Mayweather's contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.

            Kizer said the Mayweather camp asked to file it Thursday and he said OK, but that deadline also came and went.

            "We were very unhappy with the lateness of Mr. Mayweather's contract," Kizer said.

            Kizer said that had the bout agreements not been changed to 147, Mayweather would have faced a fine from the commission in addition to whatever penalty he had agreed to pay Marquez. For being two pounds overweight, Kizer said the penalty would have been 10 percent of his purse, or $1 million. Had he been three pounds over (147 pounds), the figure would have jumped to a 20 percent fine.

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            • #76
              floydiots: pac is not relevant anymore, so why fight him? but floyd and khan is a good match.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                it is unreasonable to refuse to fight with the same testing you have done your whole career. why was testing even an issue for mayweather when pac came along?
                regular testing previously done would still be done shade. in addition to that testing, floyd asked manny for additional testing for BOTH fighters, not just manny.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                  it is unreasonable to refuse to fight with the same testing you have done your whole career. why was testing even an issue for mayweather when pac came along?
                  Because he honestly felt Manny was on something. is that hard to comprehend?

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
                    it is unreasonable to refuse to fight with the same testing you have done your whole career. why was testing even an issue for mayweather when pac came along?
                    How is it unreasonable to refuse inferior testing?

                    Extra testing is good for the sport, having it for the biggest fight of all time is fitting. No one was expecting something so simple to be rejected.

                    So if Mayweather refused the weight penalty? I suppose it would be him being unreasonable? And not Pacquaio for asking for it?

                    Your double standards are ridiculous. You can't have one rule or one and another for the other.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      It's a different weight so it's not justified.

                      Doing extra testing isn't a big deal either.

                      Both asked for unprecedented requests, both were more than reasonable, one was accepted, one wasn't.

                      You're ok with one person going out of the official rules to ask for personal requests but when the other does it it's a duck (Of course because Mayweather is Psychic, as he some how knew it would be declined).
                      ok now your talking rubbish. its a different weight?!!!! it doesnt matter what the weight is. he agreed to make 144lbs, and didnt do it.

                      its not just the testing issue that makes me think mayweather ducked pacman. thats just 1 excuse.

                      does this man look like he wants to fight??? because he certainly doesnt to me.

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